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Discussion in 'The Undercity' started by seebs, Feb 22, 2017.

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  1. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    tell you what, how about you go ahead and make yet another thread about how unacceptable it is that people who do text crimes aren't punished. maybe this time a miracle will happen.
     
  2. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    Something being a final straw doesn't mean it was the biggest, heaviest, worst, or most deliberate straw.

    It means the ones before it did enough damage that this one was the last that could be borne without something giving way.
     
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  3. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Last time I checked, Wiwaxia doesn't have the power to ban anyone, and doesn't actually have any special power to whip up anyone into a freeze-out mob who doesn't already not want to interact with the users in question.

    Fuck, I'm not sure I'd ever support a "concerted effort" to freeze out users, either. I mean, I can understand why that's being considered, but I probably wouldn't be part of such an effort, and I'm sure that the vast majority of users wouldn't either. And if they did choose to do so, then that would be a personal choice.

    But hell, object all you like, I'm just not sure why this is the federal issue, here.
     
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  4. leo

    leo Well-Known Member

    i think ppl are allowed to be suspicious when it isn't out-reached suicide baiting that draws the site to a halt
    instead, it's someone with a history of disagreeing w/ seebs voicing their own opinion in a vent thread
     
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  5. furrylatula

    furrylatula a pissed off homestuck girl

    yo if this is a disagreement w one specific user and doesnt involve making new forum policy wouldnt it like........work better in that could have gone better
     
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  6. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    I'm sorry but isn't the whole purpose of this thread calling out a user for their "text crimes", and making that callout a public statement?
     
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  7. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    ^^^^^^^^^^
     
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  8. leo

    leo Well-Known Member

    OH WOW I THOUGHT JOSIE WAS IN THE WRONG THREAD
    I WAS
    whoops nvm sorry about that john
     
  9. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    Yep, it's a valid reason to be suspicious. Timing and context and all look bad. I'm offering a reason alternative to the suspicion, to be sure the idea is also in mind.
     
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  10. leo

    leo Well-Known Member

    you're voicing that alternative as though it is fact, however.
     
  11. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    because unlike all the other Text Crimes y'all are laying at my feet, this one is an intentional and sustained effort to block the forum's purpose and undermine its functioning.

    i don't care if you stand in the street and shout insults. start digging up the pavement, i'm gonna go off.

    i don't care if you're suspicious. i told seebs to go ahead and shut down the forum for an hour or so while they caught their breath and we talked about what to do. but hey, conspiracy theories are more fun than thinking of seebs as a real person with emotional limits.
     
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  12. leo

    leo Well-Known Member

    i never said anything on how i felt, meaning you're making this into a personal vendetta yet again
    and the users who got suicide baited, threatened with their own personal information, misgendered, etc don't deserve to have their emotional limits respected? it's only with wix says something that you two disagree with that something more must be done, and keeping an eye on someone is announced?
     
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  13. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    i thought about putting it in argument island, but the thing is, i do have my mod hat on. i am saying AS A MOD that if you advocate group action against the purpose of the forum, i'm gonna ride your ass about it.

    none of the other mods are promising to ride your ass. just me. but i'm still doing it in mod space.
     
  14. TwoBrokenMirrors

    TwoBrokenMirrors Merely a whitebait in the mayo of life

    This is an honest question: Why did the whole forum have to go down to deal with this?
     
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  15. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Personally I think that users bullying and threatening vulnerable site members with sexual harassment, doxing and revenge porn also somewhat undermine's the site's ability to function as an effective space for recovery, but what do I know?

    Also, having this in the meta forum, putting on the "mod hat" and making this about a perceived "blocking" of the forum's purpose means that this very much is being made a moderation policy/moderator statement.
     
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  16. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    No. This is not an invitation to discussion. It is a statement of forum policy. Getting rid of the "bad people" is not on the table.
     
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  17. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Not pictured: Months of me discussing how fucking frustrated I am that I am unable to find anything that will actually solve the problem, and how I'd rather it be me fucking up and saying "yes, this is fucked up, I am out of good ideas" than have other people keep doing shitty things to each other.
     
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  18. TheSeer

    TheSeer 37 Bright Visionary Crushes The Doubtful

    The reason the site had to be frozen was because the first admin who was supposed to be having a mental-health day got overwhelmed and so the second admin who was already having a physical health day had to come in cold and needed time to catch up. This was not ideal for me, in fact it was a great big surprise-kick in my isolation sad-brain, but it didn't happen as some sort of disciplinary action, it was a practical measure because Jesse and Seebs are finite, probably-human beings.
     
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  19. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Usually, plain statements of forum policy aren't framed within an accusatory paragraph targeting a particular user, in my experience.

    A statement of forum policy would be and impersonal and impartial statement of... well, forum policy. This was about a disagreement with a specific user, first and foremost, and that's obvious from the outset. Conflating those two things is pretty disingenuous.
     
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  20. Petra

    Petra space case

    I was never going to listen to Wiwaxia. I think people have the right to ignore people, but it's dumb to tell other people to ignore people because you're upset.
     
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