Okay so there are two conflicting viewpoints here and people keep snarking/vagueing at eachother about them so maybe let's clear up policy. Viewpoint 1: "I like the natural and organic flow of conversation. I like the loose conversational style in a thread that allows different things to be discussed and for people to be social and let the discussion vary about a central theme. This makes the forum more pleasant and allows for more varied discussion and interactions." Viewpoint 2: "I come to a thread to read about a particular thing, and it upsets me when I discover people making multiple page derails to talk about something not concerning that thing. I think they should put their auxiliary discussion somewhere else as soon as they can so that the thread can remain strictly on topic and people don't have to wade through many posts that they feel are irrelevant." At the moment there's this double standard on the forum where some people will happily entertain wandering conversations and allow them to go on, then another person will come in and demand the content go elsewhere. Some thread OPs try to take matters into their own hands and boot people out of the thread. Sometimes whether or not a derail will be objected to depends on how much people reading it are personally invested in the subject. Sometimes whether or not a derail will be moved will depend on how angrily people object to it being in the thread, and some people do get very vehement about this, which in turn makes other people distressed. Other people don't like being forced to move things because that in and of itself disrupts the conversation, causes people who only post in the first thread to drop out, and because requests that things go elsewhere also disrupt threads. I'm personally of viewpoint 1. But obviously other people feel otherwise. Can we perhaps nail down a forum policy on this so people stop attacking each other over it? Thanks.