disabled likes in this forum

Discussion in 'The Undercity' started by seebs, May 20, 2016.

  1. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    After a couple of occasions of seeing people get offended by which posts were and weren't liked in debateish things, I've turned off the "like" permission here.
  2. rorleuaisen

    rorleuaisen Frozen Dreamer

    You mock me. How am I supposed to like this rule change??? Denied again! *sulks in corner*
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  3. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    idk dude i think maybe that's a bit too micromanagey. i'd just let folk go ahead and get offended.
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  4. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    i might in general, but we had a blowup happening and i figured i'd just go ahead and do the thing. maybe change it later.
  5. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    ok, i'll poke at the idea in a week or two. i just don't think trying to keep people from getting upset about talking to each other is a road worth going down. it leads to tumblr.
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  6. Mala

    Mala Well-Known Member

    I would just like to say that I am in general not a fan of banning likes. It is both my way of communicating "yes this is what i was thinking as well" without burning spoons and also how I keep my brain from going "you said a dumb thing and now everyone secretly hates you forever"
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  7. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    That's a point. My concern is that when tempers get heated, if there's likes on a post that someone takes as highly insulting, that can really rapidly increase the risk of things going Very Wrong. I'll revisit this in a bit.
  8. EulersBidentity

    EulersBidentity e^i*[bi] + 1

    I think the argument in Seebs' writing thread is another part of the ongoing argument on argument island and not really anything to do with this particular subforum - which is to say that I think likes are a useful communication tool on the Meta subforum (e.g. for seconding emoticon requests) and if there's a conflict happening here then it should either be taken to argument island or people should be allowed to like posts as a result of the thread location.

    Since this subforum isn't designated for arguments, and in general isn't a particularly divisive bit of the forum, the action of removing likes when an argument kicks off bothers me. It feels like it's setting a precedent for cordoning off any section of the forum and saying "okay, this is for arguments now."
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  9. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    i want to like this :(
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  10. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    I'd love to like this
    but I can't.
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  11. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i don't think this is a particularly fighty subforum, actually, so turning off likes probably wouldn't be necessary most of the time in here. the only fights in here, i think, are mere extensions of the ongoing DID Thread-Inspired Argument. which i think is basically the most long lasting and forum impacting one to ever happen here.
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  12. Xavius Emeritus

    Xavius Emeritus Suit Monkey

    I think Euler hit the nail on the head.

    Or, in other words:


    In all seriousness though, yeah, the topics here might have started in good faith as a meta-argument but they've wound up being further steps of the stuff that's already being confined to the forum where likes are disabled. Why not just transfer all or part of it over there?
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2016
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  13. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Huh, that's a really good point. Thing is, I want to maintain the distinction between "all-purpose arguments" and "forum admin questions and discussions and the like", because users who don't otherwise want to read arguments might have opinions on arguments related to forum administration.

    I am not sure how to resolve that. I wonder if there's a per-thread setting.
  14. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    well, my solution would be to move the 'clarity' thread to argument island and let meta be meta.
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  15. Starcrossedsky

    Starcrossedsky Burn and Refine

    this post serves as a like function for all of the above
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  16. Mala

    Mala Well-Known Member

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  17. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    That would work for this, probably, but what happens in the general case of argumentative threads that are solely about forum administration? Hmm.
  18. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    eh, it's a good plan for now anyway
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  19. Kaylotta

    Kaylotta Writer Trash

    I feel like/suspect mainly-neutral discussions about forum administration would greatly benefit from having likes enabled - easy way to gauge interest/agreement without everyone actually having to chime in. When things head into argument territory, I feel like they usually have a significant amount of personal beef along with them - like, it stops being a matter of pure administration and becomes a personal disagreement. (I could be absolutely wrong on this; just observing/extrapolating.) At that point, perhaps it would be best moved to argument island. I think that may have to be a case-by-case basis. Have we had any other arguments in the meta forum? Do we have other precedent?
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  20. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Yeah, I think I probably jumped the gun on that one.
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