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Fandom Gripes Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by keltena, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. keltena

    keltena Probably Exists

    Similar to our fanfic gripes and shipping gripes threads, but for fandom complaints and pet peeves that don't fall under their purview. Does the rest of your fandom completely misinterpret your fave? Are you sick of that one bit of fanon you hate constantly being treated like it's canon? Are you stuck with a canon full of interesting characters and dynamics and a fandom that only focuses on the most boring ones? Join us in whining about it!

    This thread currently brought to you by my perennial Tales of the Abyss fandom pet peeve:

    People thinking Guy's foil among the God-Generals is Sync. No, Sync is Ion's foil. That much should be obvious! Guy's actual foil is Van. Come on now. I know Guy and Van don't get as much one-on-one focus as the rest of the pairs do because Van is the main villain, but even if you don't make that connection, Guy and Sync still have no thematic or narrative relevance to each other. Their only connection is a couple bits misdirection early on to disguise the real Sync twist—that he's an Ion replica—by making it seem like Guy recognizes his face because he knows him rather than because he looks identical to Ion. It's a red herring, not an indication that they're actually totally foils, you guys.
     
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  2. Carnivorous Moogle

    Carnivorous Moogle whose baby is this

    people who call strickler from trollhunters a date rapist for putting a charm in barbara's tea... to share injuries between them, as insurance against getting outright fucking murdered by her son, who would be happy to do it otherwise! like, it's real fucked up of him to do, but not wanting to die=/=drugging someone for sex, jesus christ.

    (he also immediately helps break it once the whole angor rot thing makes it sink in that someone other than jim could totally try to kill him and therefore it's not a stalemate where barb is presumably going to be safe anyway, which kind of makes me think he was not planning for her getting hurt to actually come into play at all. again, still really fucked up even though he Regrets It Later and Realizes How Fucked Up It Was, and the narrative doesn't let him off the hook there, but. ohhhh my god not wanting to die is not date raaaaaape)
     
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  3. Shwoo

    Shwoo Well-Known Member

    Getting really sick of people pointing to recent Adventure Time episodes and going "You see? That's how you write a cartoon. Are you listening, Steven Universe?" They're different shows with different styles, pacing, and ways of handling plot stuff. More appealing to you personally is not the same as objective quality, and they're both pretty good shows.

    Besides, it wasn't that long ago that people were saying that Rebecca Sugar was the only good thing about Adventure Time, it sucked after she left, and every good thing about an episode she was involved with much have been her. I haven't heard that one for a while.
     
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  4. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    There are exactly two active people in my special-interest fandom, including me.

    Edit: ...I guess three if you count that anon who keeps sending me asks at 1:30 AM.
     
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  5. keltka

    keltka the green and brown one

    .......I had, entire essays, on my intense dislike on how eridan ampora from homestuck kept getting written in humanstuck

    like
    ok
    ok
    I get that some people love the whole waifish hipster aesthetic thing bUT. BUT. THIS KID IS SHOOTING A RIFLE. FROM THE BACK OF A SKYHORSE. A SEAHORSE THAT FLOATS IN THE SKY. TWO HANDED.
    DO YOU KNOW HOW RIPPED YOU HAVE TO BE TO PULL THAT SHIT OFF
    IMAGINE THE KICKBACK
    "but keltka it's a beam of light are you SURE it would have kickback"
    NO I'M NOT SURE BUT THE NEXT PANEL GENUINELY SHOWS HIM BEING MOVED BACK AT LEAST SLIGHTLY SO!!!!
    like!!! the dude must be fucking ripped!!!! you can have a scarf hipster aesthetic and still be able to bench press half a whale!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  6. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i have some underswap gripes about temmie and monster kid.
    temmie as flowey doesn't make sense to me. like, how would that even work with the mechanics of the universe and the emotional underpinnings?

    like, first off, temmies are monsters already, which means they have SOULs and so, even if a temmie could absorb monster kid's dust, it wouldn't be SOULless and thus temmie would likely end up without flowey's problem. and undyne wouldn't be able to use a temmie as a vessel, since it wouldn't be able to absorb monster SOULs, being a monster itself.

    and like, in underswap, do toriel and asgore have a temmie zoo or something? are their temmies in frisk's village? how do the temmies have emotional significance to the characters before monster kid becomes one?

    and monster kid isn't even a boss monster, and they aren't toriel and asgore's kid, so i don't understand how they'd get involved and their SOUL wouldn't have been strong enough to cross the barrier after absorbing frisk's either.
    the rest of the underswap changes feel much more believable and are interesting to explore, but this particular one... it just breaks my brain. i'd love to find a version of underswap temmie and monster kid that doesn't, to find something that makes it make sense, but i'm not feeling very optimistic about the possibility.

    just... why... underswap? why do you change the central thread of undertale to nonsense?
     
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  7. Acey

    Acey i use my outside voice because i have no choice

    The SU fandom's hateboner for Lauren Zuke, on so many levels. Like, even if it weren't for the whole harassing them off of Twitter and possibly off the show thing, it's like...Lauren and Hilary are one of the more consistently great storyboard teams, IMO? It wouldn't be okay anyway, obviously, but Christ, it's not like they're responsible for any of the episodes generally considered to be outright bad.

    And somehow it really does seem to be just Lauren (though I've heard Hellen Jo got a lot of nasty comments when she worked on the show; that was before I got into SU, though). Like...I haven't seen anyone attacking Raven or Paul over The New Lars, even though that episode seems to be nigh-universally disliked, but Lauren writes a bit of Lapidot into Beta and suddenly they're Literal Satan. Despite many of their other episodes being very popular (Last One Out Of Beach City, anyone?) and Beta being the only one I can think of off the top of my head with any real amount of controversy surrounding it (well, save for Gem Harvest, but none of the flak for that episode seemed to be directed at any specific Crewniverse members), and despite Hilary never getting any hate that I've noticed.

    TL;DR: SU fandom, can we please stop being cuntwaffles to the Crewniverse?
     
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  8. mizushimo

    mizushimo the greatest hits

    Between the Lauren Zuke incident, the anti crusaders, the lapidot/amedot wars, AND the bizcourse, The whole SU fandom on tumblr needs to sit in the corner and think about what it's done.

    I hope the whole crewniverse has decided to ignore tumblr and twitter, the fandom is just so awful.
     
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  9. Aondeug

    Aondeug 宗教の学生

    THIS IS MY FUCKING LIFE. AND I FEEL LIKE MORVEN GAVE ME THE BOOKS JUST SO SHE COULD HAVE SOMEONE TO TALK TO.

    GOD DAMMIT.

    also hey did you know you all should read the kencyrath books and talk to aon about them because you should

    Away from that one. SU fandom. That is the entirety of my complaint about that fandom. Just. The fandom as a whole.
     
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  10. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    Every fandom that manages to loudly and angrily refuse to be the people that the characters they claim to love would want them to be. Looking at you, Undertale and Steven Universe fans in particular.
     
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  11. rje

    rje here comes the sun

    GG fandom: Please Stop Infantilizing Dan Avidan 2017
     
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  12. Aondeug

    Aondeug 宗教の学生

    how did i forget about undertale
     
  13. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    Because Sans is the new Onceler and sometimes that's too much to take.
     
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  14. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    the sansler
     
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  15. Aondeug

    Aondeug 宗教の学生

    free me
     
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  16. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    The thing that gets me is I really like characters flirting and such with their alternate universe selves, in theory! I was Very Impacted by mirrorverse!Kira Nerys as a teen.

    But sometimes there are too many lightsaber boners even for me. -_-
     
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  17. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    *musical number starts playing*
    sans: how bad can you be?
    ... actually, no, wait, scratch that. i really don't wanna know.

    *musical number goes to a disappointed stop*
    i recall mirrorverse kira kissing mirrorverse ezri (?) and then starting to ship kira/ezri (all universes) 'cause of it. and i think ezri was my fave character on the show. but i really don't recall much about it, since it has been a while since i last watched it.
     
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  18. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    Heh

    I think back in that episode it was Jadzia, since Ezri's a last season character. But she's great and I love her too. Cute and very tossed in over her head, unprepared for and overwhelmed by Dax... And yet and yet. Pushes and secretly investigates some of the history that Jadzia had let into the past. Hallucination conversations full of threat and all, with her seeming almost the most confident in the face of the risk.


    Man, Dax has a history of surprise partnerships.
     
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  19. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    yeah, maybe it was jadzia there but i remember something femslashy involving ezri and the mirrorverse and kira on the show, and making me think, "oh, i ship kira/ezri!" now. or maybe she was just wearing some sort of Dark And Edgy leather outfit and getting her Flirt on with everyone. ... i'm not sure, honestly.

    it's been a while since i watched the show and i didn't even do in full or in order.
     
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  20. Morven

    Morven In darkness be the sound and light

    *smug feline amusement*
     
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