Discussion in 'The Undercity' started by seebs, Feb 12, 2017.
The like-spam thing.
What, you mean the literal harassment?
The protocol, which is currently in... a thread that is not the community guidelines thread???? is currently to request the poster to stop, and if that doesn't work to start a thread in TCHGB to work things out.
I believe it has been at some point proposed that in extreme cases agreements to mutual ignore might be a solution???
Hrmmm, yeah because in some cases at least one party would really like never to have to talk to the other party again.
Yeah, I feel like the places our moderation system breaks down is when one party doesn't WANT to fix things or change their behavior.
Or, alternatively, has just had enough and can't be arsed to deal with the other party any more.
Yes, but I'm specifically referring to something else, not just ignoring a person. I don't see ignoring a person as a 'break down'?
ahahah. I'm thinking about when mutual ignore breaks down because of vent threads.
Oooh. That's a thing, although if mentions aren't too targeted I don't see much point in letting the other person know because that tends to just be upsetting. It is a good point, though!
I'd like to ask if this thread has been motivated by a thing that's actually been happening, or is purely hypothetical in terms of worry? Most of the nasty shit that's been flung around in vent threads lately has already been on the side of 'I'm saying hurtful things, I don't care if you read it, and I don't care if it hurts you (but you're allowed to feel that way, sucker)'. Which is acceptable in terms of what Seebs has been saying? Obviously it's not nice, but niceness isn't really a requirement to be posting here. Where did this come from?
Long story short: There's been varying degrees of that, but we've had a few instances in the past, involving a number of people, where someone was criticized sometimes fairly harshly for being hurt by something they read in a vent thread, on the grounds that they shouldn't have been reading the thread or taking it seriously in the first place. And I got to thinking about this partially as a side-effect of the question of whether everyone had agreed that Brainbent was "all vent threads" or "sometimes vent threads", and how you'd tell whether a thread was a vent thread, and what the implications were. And even outside the immediate "vent thread" thing, there's been a few cases of people getting upset when accused of having said things, on the grounds that obviously those things were just venting and shouldn't be taken as things they actually believe.
And it occurred to me that a lot of this is simply resolved by "whether or not you said you were venting, if you say a thing, you have said that thing".
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