Profile post discussion [split]

I'm really not getting how "try to not post obviously triggery things in places where people can't easily avoid it" is expecting you to be "fluffy"

 

Hmm. Could we more specifically define the line of what is "obviously triggery"? Is talking about feeling bad/depressed triggery? Is eluding to the existence of a triggering topic triggery? I think there might be being some confusion...

 

Fair enough.

 

To clarify, we are still not discussing instating an actual rule about this, right? We're still in floaty theoretical 'perhaps try to be a bit more careful'-land?

I'd like to suggest that debating what counts and doesn't count as 'triggering' or 'obviously triggering enough' to be or not be in the status box is not actually helping the discussion, as long as we're not talking about making actual rules.

(edit: oh, ninja'd, sort of)

 

I'm on a roll with those recently, I only found out a few days ago that it was "tenet" and not "tenant".

 

Ages ago I made a hugbox thread (meant for venting and them receiving sympathies/hugs, not a hugbox in the usual sense) That could be used as a communal vent place

 

Ye.
And yeah, again, I don't know if it should be a community guideline, or just an observation, or what.

 

This seems really reasonable to me. Putting things in the chatbox is a lot like walking into a group of people and saying something, and asking people to be mindful of what they're saying in that context is like... basic 'how to get along' guidelines, I thought?

 

Would this be a thing most people/the average person would consider triggery (ie along the lines of rape, abuse ect)? if yes, consider not posting it in the statusbox and instead make a thread or post in an existing thread

And there'll probably be times when someone goes "hey can you move this to a thread, its triggery for me?" because there's no way to make a list of what does and doesn't count and that's fine and not some big failing on the part of the person posting the status.

 

Fair enough. Mostly its that... i would not have considered the post about sexualizing kids something not to say in a group of people. I dunno. I didn't want to start a debate either, I was just freaking out, thought that was a relevant data point, and tried to put words to it when asked.

 

really

 

Well, this was a bad time for me to take a daytime nap, I missed a few pages of it.

The basic request, how can we make the front page safer/more comfortable for people sensitive to triggery topics, is fine. I want us to talk about possible solutions to that problem, multiple possible solutions.

I am Upset, in a bad associations way, by claims like "I don't think it's too much to ask" people to successfully gauge whether a thing is likely enough to be harmful to post it in the profile posts. We have a myriad of brainweird here: an unspoken, internally gauged common sense is going to be very difficult for some of us to manage when it's most needed.

I make a habit of not posting anything that I think could plausibly be upsetting to the profile posts, partly because I do not trust myself to gauge it when I'm upset, and partly because 140 characters is too short to say things without being painfully blunt about it.

The solution I suggested is one that I would find very easy. I suspect it would not be easy for others. That's why I encouraged everyone to chime in with other ideas.

The idea of having a dedicating venting status thread, stickied in one of the likely-to-upset topic forums, sounds like a good one. And I like those forums because they give some explicit examples of what they're centered around, so I don't need to think it or remember it, just to reread the forum description.

It's.... I am genuinely upset, in a way that is hard to articulate, by anyrhing that sounds like "it's not hard, just do it." Anything that puts the majority of the responsibility for not-doing-harm on the potential harmer. At the very least, I'd like us to brainstorm methods and resources and strategies, so that we can use someone else's tools/guidelines/advice on how to avoid doing harm.


Eta and then those posts got moved while I was typing, oops.

Eta fixed a few typos