ETA: the below is the post which started the whole thing, and it happens to be my post. So, @swirlingflight is the SPR mod...but I am the person who can edit this post. Nothing below the line of tildes has been edited since Saturday. I'm only editing this post to respectfully request that if you are not either a player in the SPR or a former player in the SPR who left because of content (any kind of content; we've got some people riled about sex-related content and others riled about the level of violence and nastiness) you stay out of this thread. Please do not come here to white-knight for someone when you don't know what the actual situation is, because that's how the whole shitstorm got started. The purpose of this thread is to help @swirlingflight make decisions about the rules for SPR, not to determine if any person on any side of the argument is the offspring of a hamster whose partner smelt of elderberries. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ OK, this is annoying and I have no idea how to respond to it. The "rules" of the space are there for the players, not the characters, to read. None of my characters are even aware that they're on a freaking forum. It's my job as a player to follow the rules and none of my characters have had this experience. I can't tell if this is IC or thinly veiled OOC, but I feel like I'm being told what experiences my characters had here, and while Kankri can have had whatever experience he likes and it's his job to be annoying, it rubs me the wrong way. Not least because I think his interpretation is bizarre. Underage people have the complete right to say "I'm 15 and what is this" if a conversation upsets them. Additionally, anyone else has the right to ask a conversation that's upsetting them to stop. But right now, given that I'm getting shit from Kankri and TNFL is your self-insert, I don't know whether I'm making you uncomfortable and/or doing something you think is breaking the rules, and it's making me really uncomfortable because you are a minor. At the same time, I can't possibly know what would make you uncomfortable because your characters make me uncomfortable all the freaking time. It's IC for them as they are 50 Shades of Cronus, and you spoiler the kitten-eating, so I don't complain about it. But I can't gauge your comfort zone in RP because you do stuff in the SPR that I wouldn't allow in a game I was running. It's probably not the Pines family you have a problem with, it's probably me. I try to separate IC/OOC and I think I do a pretty good job, but at the same time there are character traits and character actions that I couldn't write a POV character ever approving of, because I would upset myself--I write and run villains who do stuff like that, but they're villains and I don't have to live in their heads while I'm playing. So you have many characters that none of my characters are ever going to like unless I bring in my villains, but I don't want to have interpersonal troubles with you? It is my opinion that sexual information (no my species doesn't have knives on their dicks) properly spoilered, or comments like "any two sapient beings can find a way if they really want to" do not in any way constitute hitting on minors or showing/sharing porn with minors. None of my characters in the cat dick discussion were addressing minors and Ford didn't say anything to TNFL that he hasn't said IC in WT to Dipper, who is dating a troll pitch and a catte flushed. And it embarrassed Dipper a little, because talking about sex with your parental figures is always embarrassing, but he didn't feel abused, probably because he knows there is no way Ford would ever ever in a million billion years want to talk as a peer with him about sex, or to gods-forbid hit on him. If this is not IC/OOC blurring I apologise. But it feels like it is.