So, Where Do We Draw The Line?: About Alix.

Discussion in 'The Undercity' started by anonaughty, Feb 1, 2017.

  1. anonaughty

    anonaughty New Member

    To quote ASPD Anon...

    Alix asked for a self-imposed ban for their actions on Sunday. Today, it was realized that Alix had created/taken a hold of the account A Crow, thus bypassing their own ban. Whether or not you think the ban should be reinstated as Alix presumably did not alert Seebs is up to you.

    However, Alix has, time and time again, suicide baited people. Being told to knock it off has not worked, and in an attempt to leave, a self-ban has not worked as Alix remains on the forums. Should they be allowed to stay? Should moderation over their accounts be put in place?

    Where do we draw the line, if there is a line to be drawn?
     
  2. Silence

    Silence New Member

    Presumptive. We don't draw the line about bans or punitive moderation.

    Try making a thread with actionable questions.
     
  3. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    This subforum is for hashing out issues between specific users. Are you confronting Alix here or...?
     
  4. Wiwaxia

    Wiwaxia problematic taxon

    point of order: @A Crow is actually banned "by request, under a different name"

    typing up more thoughts but would like to point that out first

    eta. whoops, shows what i get for not checking what forum the threads in first
     
  5. Alix asked for a ban because they couldn't stop themselves from checking the forum, not as a punishment for their actions. Whether you think they deserve a ban for their actions or not, it's misleading to talk as though Seebs approved the ban as some kind of punishment and Alix ~snuck back in without telling their parole officer~.

    Also, @A Crow is now banned.
     
  6. kmoss

    kmoss Under Construction

    conversation on this seems difficult

    anyone can join the forums. No email sign up is necessary. the moderators have other things to do than obsessively vet each person who enters the forum with an account to make sure that it isn't a banned person on another account.
    any person who has left has self-banned.

    aside from physically going to a user's house and taking their computer, I see no way to solidly "block" any person from the forums.
     
  7. Silence

    Silence New Member

    It's another hate and punishment thread. But this one has good reasons so it can be in the wrong forum because [train noises].
     
  8. anonaughty

    anonaughty New Member

    What subforum would have worked better? Serious question.
     
  9. anonaughty

    anonaughty New Member

    I apologize for misleading you, and I said that was up to what others not, not what I myself was saying.
     
  10. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    There is no forum for gathering up a gang to decide the fate of another user.

    If you want to talk about repeated suicide baiting and how to deal with it on the forum in the general sense, which has been done by more than one person, you'd want a meta thread.
     
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  11. anonaughty

    anonaughty New Member

    This is talking about it and it has been brought up because of Alix. Talking about suicide baiting and meta would ultimately round about to Alix. No one brought any examples up, so I apologize for making it so short-sighted. Care to give an example so I can edit it in?
     
  12. I am not misled, dude, you're still doing it with the
    bs.

    :|
     
  13. Mala

    Mala Well-Known Member

    Also it would be better to make it about suicide baiting in a general sense, rather than clearly about a specific user who's not here currently
     
  14. evilas

    evilas Sure, I'll put a custom title here

    Dude. This kind of thread? Not cool. Ever.
    Kintsugi has no punishment system by design. Deigning someone as "A Problem that must be fixed and gotten out of the way" is literally against everything that this site stands for. Period. End of discussion.

    Suicide baiting is a problem.
    Alix has caused problems because she suicide-baited multiple times.

    Alix herself is not a problem.
     
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  15. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Maybe "vent threads and the community" or the thread about dog piling would be good templates. They were created because of patterns of behavior, but sparked by specific incidents, without being ABOUT those incidents.
     
  16. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

     
  17. Wingyl

    Wingyl Allegedly Magic

    This thread isn't about running someone off the forum though, it's about someone who requested to be banned so they could stop checking the forum, and then made a subaccount to post anyway shortly after? So they requested a ban for their mental health, then once they got it, they proceeded to make it ineffective.
     
  18. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    I really happy and proud of how the community culture here has developed. It only took one big "hate thread" incident for us to learn better and look at us now. c:

    Like, genuinely, it's good.
     
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  19. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Seebs isn't her parent or doctor, that's not his job.

    He's not even sure if he'll continue offering voluntary bans because of the workload it creates.
     
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  20. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    The question of running off the forum is in the op. The entire premise of the op is that maybe this time the entire foundation of the forum should be compromised. Because reasons.
     
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