Super. Dysfunctional. Family. (Umbrella Academy!)

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by artistformerlyknownasdave, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. artistformerlyknownasdave

    artistformerlyknownasdave revenge of ricky schrödinger

    this is a thread for netflix’s new series the umbrella academy, based off the comic series by gerard way and gabriel bá!

    43 children are born on the same day in 1989, all to mothers who had not been pregnant the day before. an eccentric elderly man named reginald hargreeves adopted seven of these children and raised them to use their powers to fight crime. now, they’ve all grown up and gone their separate ways, and are reunited for the first time in 13 years to solve the mystery of their father's death.

    oh, and the world is ending in eight days.

    this show deals heavily with themes of child abuse, partner abuse, death, and drug addiction, and graphic violence and murder feature heavily, so general CW for those things in this thread. discussion of episodes/events later in the series should be kept under a spoiler at least until it’s been out for a while longer, please!

    that aside, who's your favorite? any speculation for season two?
     
  2. Maya

    Maya smug_anime_girl.jpg

    I havent finished it yet I have like... i think 2 episodes to go but I just wanna say that I would actually DIE for klaus
     
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  3. artistformerlyknownasdave

    artistformerlyknownasdave revenge of ricky schrödinger

    klaus is great, he's one of my faves. he's a hilarious, charming trashfire of a character, and i love the "hello/goodbye" tats
     
  4. dky

    dky burnt toast

    i made a post with all the trigger warnings listed, u can find it here just in case someone wants an easily-accessible list

    but anyway i would and will die for five, klaus, and vanya
     
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  5. Saro

    Saro Where is wizard hut

    Vanya and Klaus (lol like everyone else)

    Allison I like a lot and I was very glad she wasn't dead (curious how this will interact with her power/feelings about place in stuff/etc. Also that dress during the dancing? effervescent. I loved it.

    Luther: I relate to feelings of sudden wrong body because of chronic illness shit, but dang is he an unlikable boy! I am feeling positively chilly towards him after his stunt with putting Vanya back in that room (plus it obviously was just more catalyst for apocalypse shit, so, good going, dipshit).

    Diego grew on me a bit and i think a good portion of that is because he and Klaus were kind of paired up a lot in later eps.

    Five is... hmm. Dunno. Not a fave.

    VERY FOND of the little bit of Ben we've seen and would like more. Esp. of him as an independent agent not acting as impetus for Klaus to do stuff! or not do stuff.

    Uuuuuh mostly I just want to watch more, like, now, please.
     
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  6. keltka

    keltka the green and brown one

    PARTNER AND I ARE WATCHING THIS I will report back later but 100% my favorite is
    ben
    hers is definitely klaus
     
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  7. GlassesBlu

    GlassesBlu The evil clone

    Wish we had more Ben content honestly s2 please give us Him

    Other than that I love 5 and Klaus and Vanya heheh

    Everyone's a Mess and just get distracted by their own bs its so wild and funny and frustrating to watch XD
    Yet like despite it all they all deeply care for one another in their own way and I enjoy seeing that

    I love Vanya's clothes tbh she's got such a Look, very cool

    I also like 5 but his brushing off his family is p dumpster fire stupid of him but he's got a huge ego, like Luther and Diego have big egos too haha, and the whole hargreeves family are fools who got duper fucked up by dumbass bastard Reginald
     
  8. keltka

    keltka the green and brown one

    I'm not QUITE as far into the series but my personal theory there is
    He already went the route of "could they help me with this?" and the answer he came up with is, "no, they're dead, if they try to help they'll die again" which is the last thing he wants after hopping too far into the future at the age of 13 and being confronted with their dead bodies first thing? like oh my GOD he has a huge ego and he's a massive disaster, but all the same, it reads to me like being partially trauma-based?
     
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  9. Charlie

    Charlie I got no strings to hold me down

    Unpopular UA opinion: Luther gets too much shit from fandom
     
  10. artistformerlyknownasdave

    artistformerlyknownasdave revenge of ricky schrödinger

    no luther is my least favorite by a mile (vanya, klaus, and ben are my faves, like everyone else lmao) but i definitely think the fandom tends to...dismiss the fact that he was abused, too? or treat him like he’s Lesser for having complicated feelings about his abuser.

    like man getting sent to the moon for four fucking years only to find out that all of it had no greater purpose, that you spent four years away from anyone else, for no reason....that’d fuck anyone up.
     
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  11. Charlie

    Charlie I got no strings to hold me down

    Yeah, I really have a thing for characters who care about someone who hurt them or who do feel those complicated feelings, so seeing some of the reactions people have to Luther because He Does Care... hurt me, a little.

    The fact Luther does care hurts for me. All the characters do in different ways but, there's a certain something to being loyal to someone who treats you like shit.
     
  12. garden

    garden lucid dreamer

    finished watching tua a few days ago, really enjoyed it! five is probably my top fave but i really like klaus too. diego grew on me.
    also ben omg <3
     
  13. roach

    roach hump rumpus professional

    IM HAVING SO MANY FEELINGS ABOUT THIS SHOW AAH

    my favorite is five because he manages to look extremely cute and extremely punchable at the exact same time, all the time

    edit: also i adore the dougnut lady, im terrified something awful is going to happen to her
     
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  14. keltka

    keltka the green and brown one

    the physical embodiment of "eminently punchable" and "imminently punchable" all in one
     
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  15. roach

    roach hump rumpus professional

    also i adore ellen page as an actress but she just is not convincing as a heterosexual in any way whatsoever. it really makes her romance with a man come off as 'sad baby lesbian is hopefully responding to the first person to be nice to her ever' instead of 'woman in love'.

    maybe in season two vanya will get a girlfriend??? i can only hope.
     
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  16. GlassesBlu

    GlassesBlu The evil clone

    Wah wah!!! When 5 said "what about my family" started jumping up and down and shouting!!!
     
  17. latitans

    latitans zounds, scoob

    ssdkljg;lsakj okay i just finished season two in one sitting (an unhealthy thing to do probably) and i am still chewing on it (there is so much to chew!!). gonna re-watch it with others at a more reasonable pace lol, which will probably help me get myself in order.

    but i've got some half-formed klaus n ben thoughts that have been rattling around for a bit

    so there's this quote from the terry pratchett book lords and ladies that keep coming back to me when i think about klaus and why he is the way he is:

    “You call yourself some kind of goddess and you know nothing, madam, nothing. What don't die can't live. What don't live can't change. What don't change can't learn. The smallest creature that dies in the grass knows more than you.”


    because of his powers, klaus has such an odd relationship with death. and i think that odd relationship is, maybe more than anything else, the cause of his cheerful nihilism, his unseriousness, his lack of connection to anything. he knows what's beyond the veil, and that knowledge makes everything in life meaningless. because what's eighty or so years compared to eternity?

    and maybe dying and coming back to life made it worse. what don't die can't live. what don't live can't change. klaus is sober now, he has better control of his powers, he doesn't seem as tortured by the ghosts anymore. he's a bit happier, a bit healthier. but i don't know if he's really changed, or learned.

    and maybe that's why he and ben got caught in this cycle of bickering and passive aggression. ben was tired of being stuck. i was happy, in some ways, that he got to move on, even if the moment itself made me cry. because what was the alternative? klaus being his conduit for the rest of his life? or him being klaus's shadow, kind of there, kind of a person, kind of not? wallowing in this in-between space, seeing but not touching, not feeling? it was, in a weird, sad way, a happy ending. he got to touch and feel one last time, he got to hug two of his siblings, he got to save the world, say goodbye. and yes, i wanted him to have some sort of reconciliation with klaus after a week of fighting with each other, but sometimes shit just shakes out that way. ben still got a good ending, he got to change.

    i don't know what the way forward for klaus would be. i want him to have something that he can hold onto, something that gives him a sense of meaning, of self, of being alive. (dave gave him that, maybe, but dave is gone.) i don't know what some new thing to hold onto would look like yet. but i hope we get that in season 3.

    on a completely unrelated note the klaus & allison scenes were EVERYTHING to me, i knew they would be best friends and i bet they were sneaky best friends as kids too. klaus absolutely visited her in la a few times, and they had so much fun. but then it got messy, and then kind of depressing, and klaus was so out of control and so desperate for something, anything, and allison was getting everything she ever wanted but it wasn't real, and eventually they just stopped.

    and while 'frogs are bitches and we don't negotiate with terrorists' is objectively fucking hilarious, i feel like there's something a little more profound, a little darker lurking under that conversation. maybe klaus really does believe that his and allison's powers by their very nature make them bad people who will always destroy themselves and everything around them. allison can get anything she wants, anytime she wants, if she just quiets the voice in her head that cares about consent and agency. death means nothing to klaus, so nothing means anything, so he might as well do whatever he wants.

    i don't think that klaus is right about them. but it's so fascinating to me that he, maybe, thinks that way.

    or maybe he was thinking of a different story, with different animals and a different moral, and just got distracted. he's not a morning person after all.

    jeez that was way longer than i thought, i just have a lot of Feelings.
     
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