Confessions of a Teenaged Angelkin [AMA]

i feel like someone has to be doing it tho ive long since stopped thinking a thing is too stupid to be done

 

Yeah, I long ago gave up on the idea that some things were too stupid for anyone to ever do. There are still many where it just leaves me shaking my head, though.

I haven't encountered any godkin in real life, but I've encountered a woman who believes she's Queen of the Fairies. Literally. And some God-spouses, and that's a barrel of laughs all in itself, especially the number of people who're convinced they're Loki's wife. Loki is clearly way past bigamy here.

 

Queen of which Fairies? The Fae aren't exactly one giant kingdom.

 

Loki's wife as in 'Loki's totally in love with me', or Loki's wife as in 'literally Angrboda'? Because... aren't the jotunn cannibals? :T

 

I bet there has existed/exists an interpretation of the Bible where Jesus is godkin. :)

 

I'm just saying, if you're gonna claim to be Abrahamic godkin, you'd better pony up those miracles real damn fast.

 

The very concept of the trinity.

Just saying.

 

I was on a mailing list a while back for discussing textual criticism of the gospels. Didn't participate much because there were a couple of serious scholars (as in people with PhDs and tenure who got paid to do that stuff) and I'm just an amateur who likes to read and understand. There were a couple of amateurs who did participate. One of them used the nym Judas Didymos Thomas. His posts became progressively weirder until it became clear he really thought he was the reincarnated twin brother of Jesus. He started sending people to Hell when they disagreed with him on the list. Then he got banned.

 

so it may or may not be canon, but it is Canon in the original sense (=approved by the Catholic Church, not a heresy or unofficial opinion)

 

The former; they don't think they're Angrboda, they think that Loki has a personal relationship with their special self because they're just so fucking special and they're MARRIED now.

Meanwhile every sensible Heathen is like, "That is SUCH a bad idea" and backing away hurriedly.

 

There was ... a limit to how far I wanted to delve into her craziness. I think she was of the opinion that all the other stuff was wrong and she was the ultimate high queen of all.

 

I snerk mightily.

 

Oh, dear. That sounds like a terrible idea.

... So was this before or after Tom Hiddleston started playing movie!Loki?

 

That I recall, before, though I'm sure that the movies have made it So Much Worse.

 

... I suppose one could hope that Loki would just be amused, and not like. actively offended. But I'm pretty sure that courting Loki's attention is a terrible idea under pretty much all circumstances.

 

Now, there's good reason to believe that Loki's role as the Norse pantheon's scapegoat means that he is blamed for everything, even the things that aren't his fault. But still, you're inviting Chaos into your life through the front door; good luck holding onto anything you value.

 

It's like people who worship Eris as a patron. Like, what, why?

 

Exactly. I will honor Loki; he is one of the Gods, he is Odin's blood-brother [and, historically speaking in the evolution of the religion, it seems that in many ways he's a splitting of Odin, taking some of the dark-side aspects of him], and he serves a very useful purpose. Chaos is essential to life. Stasis is death, it is the cold of permanent ice beyond the worlds of the living. He serves to criticize the other Gods and point out their flaws and their excess of pride. He allows growth, evolution, change.

I'm still not inviting him into my house.

(Parts of the Lokasenna are hilarious, BTW; the insults he throws toward the other Gods are generally so on point).

 

Oh, interesting, that's similar to some of the sharding that happened in the Egyptian religion over the years. (Sehkmet and Bast seem to be the same deity if you go back far enough, just regional flavors.)

 

I didn't know that! But I guess not surprising. With the Norse stuff, we only have at all good info about the Icelandic version at the end, but it does appear that quite a lot of change happened over the years. First, you have two families of Gods who used to be at war, but who arranged a truce and sent a member of each family to go live with the others as an ambassador / hostage. A lot of people take that as meaning that two different peoples joined together and merged their religions. Tyr appeared to have great importance in Germanic worship in earlier periods, but by the late Icelandic period his importance seems to have dropped significantly, with many of his responsibilities passed to Odin or Thor.

There's also the long speculation about whether Freyja's husband Oðr is actually Odin, and whether Freyja and Frigga are really the same Goddess as well. The latter appears to be a little less likely because both are given quite different attributes and stories, though it's possible they sharded but further back in the religion's evolution, but Oðr is comparatively unremarkable and the odds are pretty good that at least at points the two were the same. It's been speculated that this may originally have been that the culture supported polygamy among nobility and therefore their Gods, and that with polygamy becoming less acceptable in Norse culture, Oðr was created as a public face of Godly monogamy.

It's also notable that of the Norse pantheon, only Odin and Freyja have multiple aspects and only they are known for disguise and dissembling; they frequently appear to mortals at first in disguise (Odin is especially notable for that). The multiple aspects may also suggest that those two are the products of merging multiple deities together over time.

But this is way digression off this thread, oops. Sorry!