TFs: DARE TO BE STUPID

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by itsAlana, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Just finished Mtmte 1 and 2 and omg Tailgate. Tailgate you confused confused bot. (Also jesus his self esteem issues are there from the word go aren't they?)
     
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  2. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    I'm glad the site went back up because the only good downloading link I found took forever and I was having a hell of a time wrestling with google docs :P Yeah, in order to understand certain plot events that start around issue 24 or somewhere around there you have to have read Robots In Disguise, the other IDW series that was running parallel to MTMTE. And then after the plot events another series starts up that also runs parallel. I don't think you need to have read anything before that, though, or at least I didn't.

    Tailgate is so precious :D
     
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  3. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Noted!

    Yes so precious and will have such terrible things happen to him, I can't wait - it's going to break my heart.
     
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  4. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    mtmte 2-3: Cyclonus you are the worst (I say sighing happily). Rodimus you are a terrible Captain what is wrong with you, Rung I am so sorry you have to deal with this. Someone take the gun out of Skids hand. Prowl what the fuck have you done. Poor Duobots, I hardly knew thee.

    Tailgate you precious precious bot, maybe ask for a second option about the war from someone that did not drop you to the floor. Not all attention is good.
     
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  5. Glassware

    Glassware Well-Known Member

    For two characters created literally for the purpose of dying in the first two issues the Duobots had a hella neat design. Were we ever told what their deal was? Were they combiners?
     
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  6. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Yeah I want to learn more about then. I can't wait until I get to the annual I hear Ore as more part in it somehow.
     
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  7. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    (Also sorry to keep spaming the thread with my nonsense fic stuff but I'm trying to decide if I should use an existing but thought dead in the war or not used in IDW Decepticon or just come up with a new name and Bot. Also trying to figure out what words transformers might use for the concept of a parent. Edit: Derp Derp, I can just use pater. )
     
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  8. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    I'm pretty sure the answer is "they wouldn't." A good chunk of the fandom just goes with the sparkling fanon, where adult Cybertronians can get pregnant one way or another (either spark-pregnant where their spark eventually splits like mitosis, or more standard type pregnant where they literally carry small robots to term in their abdomens, or a bunch of other things probably) but that stuff never shows up in canon, at least not that I've seen. There are a few different types of somewhat familial relationship, but none of them is parental.

    You might try reading about Soundwave's backstory, though. His cassettes' bond with him is more pale than parental imo, but it's still the closest that comes to mind? I think you'll see a flashback of his backstory in Robots In Disguise if you read that (which I'd recommend regardless :>)
     
  9. Exohedron

    Exohedron Doesn't like words

    Transformers don't have parents as such in IDW G1 canon, so it's kind of a weird situation.
    The original Cybertronians are harvested as sparks from the emanations of Vector Sigma and their bodies form around the sparks from malleable metal (these are called Forged). Later, when Vector Sigma started to give off fewer sparks, some Cybertronian bodies were constructed by living Cybertronians, with sparks that are (extracted? splintered? ripped?) from the Matrix (these are called Constructed Cold). The Constructed Cold Cybertronians might claim that their body-makers are their "parents", but that's never really addressed, especially since the sparks themselves are from the Matrix and most Cybertronians consider that to be their core selves.

    I'm having similar issues with my original story, where in at least one society new people are grown in tubes and raised by the government. No notion of "parents", no notion of "blood relatives" no notion of "generations", no notion of "inheritance", etc.
     
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  10. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    I was more thinking for the Cybertionians on the colony my character 'grew up' on. But I really should stop fic babbling here since a lot of it is weird oc stuff. Sorry.
     
  11. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Yeah, I've looked into that. It's for the fic thing. I will shut up about fic stuff. I'm really sorry.
     
  12. Exohedron

    Exohedron Doesn't like words

    No, fic stuff is cool, at least in my opinion. Best way to engage with media is to make and consume fanworks.

    Anyway, one thing you can be sure of: there'll be (???)-ism against your cyborgs or whatever you end up calling them. If there's one thing the IDW G1 universe is full of, it's Cybertronians discriminating against each other for all sorts of things they can't change.
     
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  13. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    Just speaking for myself, I like reading the oc stuff! I'm curious about that colony, is it made up only of android types like your oc or are there some humans and/or Cybertronians there too? It would be interesting to see how the different cultures mixed together wrt raising offspring and the language and ideas surrounding children/newly-created bots.

    (if you're uncomfortable posting here, maybe you could just spoiler-tag fic stuff? That way you could talk about the thing without feeling like you're intruding. I don't think you're intruding! Fic stuff is definitely topical, not to mention really cool :) But if you feel that way, spoiler tags might help? idk idk)

    Fakeedit: oh yeah there'll be HELLA robot prejudice. Cybertronians are at least as assholeish as humans are :P
     
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  14. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.


    I figured that, but yeah *nods*

    Pretty much what I'm having is that this group of Cybertronian's that fled at some point during the war ( lot of mini bots like Rewind), has the ship with some Trans-Humans/Androids that fled their own war and got sucked into a time rift of sorts and dumped into IDW universe - saw some of the trans-human babies being raised and growing and went "well frag that's kinda interesting" and went to the Decepticon (who kinda really religious) about how he manged to share/split is spark to initialize Star Shield (the oc - "she" had no awareness before then since they were just a protype and two different techs bio-tech and traditional cybertron tech jammed together). The first few "sparklings" were cold forged so to speak and made from spare parts and scraps before they figured out how to incorporate the bio-tech. So what they have is very transformer like "children" (what I'm having being affectionately called sparklings) that also need to 'grow up' over more than just a few weeks and can actually develop from toddler size to mini bot size (With some outside upgrades needed, and 'gender' being a thing they can pick if they want and change as much as they want growing up). Which in fic is why the Lost Light agrees to help Star Shield with the distress call because this could be an answer - its not the Knights but -- and of course everything goes wrong in a lot of ways. So yeah, I was pretty much searching for a word that a group with no words for parent or father and such would use. Would they borrow the Trans-Human's words? Or come up with their own.

    (And uh sorry for apologizing so much, I'm just really worried I'm upsetting people babbling about this stuff).
     
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  15. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Mix of Cybertronians and the andriod types. It was a Cybertrionian colony made up of refuges helped off planet by a very disillusioned "former" Decepticon, that decided both sides were doing horror things and the best he could do was get some Bots the fuck out of the war. He claims(ed) to be a archivist and most were polite (or scared) enough to not calling him on that.
     
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  16. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Yoooo, I have some questions about transformers porn. If there's anyone more acquainted with that subset of fandom than me. I'm trying to brace myself to dive in, but my reading spoons are way lower than my writing spoons for whatever silly reason, and I've been through some very nice fics, but I've got some questions about the transformers xeno.

    Okay. So I know the usual setup is spike/valve combo packs, I've got a handle on fragging, overload, and all that. But then there are some particulars where I'm just not sure of how fanon generally stands.
    • Usually the phallic doodad is the spike. At least one fic I read called it the 'cable' and it was a bit prehensile. Is that too-too unusual? After so much homestuck, tentabulges are my happy place.
    • Is it more common for robot come to be transfluid, or for the overload to be a big ol' release of electrical charge? Or is transfluid the valve lubricant? Basically I'm wondering if there's any common consensus as to what transfluid is.
    • Data jacks on the tip of the spike and deep inside the valve for very intimate data exchange: common xeno, or did it just show up in this one REALLY awesome fic I read?
    • For robot-specific erogenous zones, I've seen gaps between plates and 'sensory nodes on someone's neural net' used. Am I missing anything big?
    • Is removable crotch armor (robot underwear?) versus retractable crotch plates more common?
    • And, last one, I've seen fans kicking on used mostly in a wow-I'm-aroused context. I'm inclined to use them in a heart-beating-too-hard or a breathing-too-fast sense, which would cover arousal, potentially, but also other kinds of nerves and excitement. Will I look very silly if I do that? Like, oh no you scared me so much I just got a boner :V

    Sorry for all the questions, I'm trying to write something sweet, slow, and lingering, but it's nervewracking trying to navigate an established xeno system when I'm still very new to the scene :P
     
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  17. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Just from the fics I've read:
    1. I've mostly seen spike and valves.
    2. Mostly seen a transfluid/ release of electrical charge combo with the transfluid also being the lubrication. Also seen some stuff about parts being silicone based.
    3. I have not seen that shit can I have a link?
    4. I've seen cables and the panel, glossa.
    5. Mostly seen retractable crotch plates/panels.
    6. Not sure?
    Rec time:
    http://archiveofourown.org/works/2130732
    http://archiveofourown.org/works/875092
    http://archiveofourown.org/works/4018210
    http://archiveofourown.org/works/2605247

    http://archiveofourown.org/works/746393

    All Tailgate/Cyclonus. Might like? Might given idea? IDK.
     
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  18. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    Mtmte 12#: holy shit Whirl you asshole. Also - I'm sure people have meta'd about this but did anyone notice how all the innermost engeron left for Rewind was pink but what Tailgate tried to leave for Cyclonus was yellow?
     
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  19. Allenna

    Allenna I am not a Dragon. Or a Robot. Really.

    OH MY GOD. *whimpering sounds about Rewind and Tailgate - even though I know tailgate gets better* Well I guess I know why his innermost engeron was yellow. Oh fuck. Also Cyclonus, no that is no the way to deal with your feelings.
     
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  20. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    @Allenna, thank you!! This is the biggest fic inspiring these questions (Drift/Ratchet, mind the tags, though those are almost entirely for past stuff haunting them (there is one bit where the consent is sketchy, but it's a very sweet, romantic fic)). The data jacking is SUPER intimate and adorable and I reaaaaaaally really want to use it, I just need to make sure I'm not ripping off this one singular author first. I LOVE the way they've written their xeno, but I also don't want to just be a copycat :PPP
     
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