Let us tell you about Homestuck

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Wiwaxia, Apr 12, 2015.

  1. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    i mean i am the captain of an armada of multiships. But bc i am terribubble at maintaining creative output of any kind i have no idea if i will ever contribute.
    But i love the idea of the ship. Fef and nep shall have tea parties and pun a lot and murder gratuitously huge wildlife together. And then kiss atop the corpse.
     
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  2. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    *clapping*
    beautiful.
    *wipes away tear*
    simply beautiful.

    and I mean I've never contributed myself. but that's because I'm too nervous to share my arts and writes.
     
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  3. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    well shit man if i didn't ship it before i do now
     
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  4. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    YES
    JOIN US
     
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  5. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    NepFef is A++ good ship, I approve. <3

    (my big terrible rarepair/crackship is damsol though and i still can't believe i actually ship it)
     
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  6. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    WONDERFUL I am so glad people here like this ship

    ....damsol.
    .....tell me more.
     
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  7. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    I would like to see Nepeta murdering the shit out of a giant carnivorous berserk-elephant and then feferi feeds it to her mom. And then they make out.
     
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  8. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    okay folks, time to share my dumb as shit crackship
    it comes in flavours ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE TRAINWRECK or CINNAMON ROLL TEAPARTY WITH FLOWER CROWNS AND HAIRBRAIDING
    okay ready?
    reeeeeady?
    Gamzee<>Feferi
    *sees self out*
    *comes back in to slide a note saying "ARRANGED Gamzee<>Feferi" across the floor*
    *peers around door frame with held breath*
     
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  9. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    Arranged you say? Politics you say? *chin hands* tell me more.
    (tbh I can probably get on board most ships if you put politics in)
     
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  10. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    oooohh


    OOOOHHH...

    Now that's interesting. You could see it as them being pawns of the Church and Empress, but I'm reminded of Splickedy's au where they meet up on their own to try and overthrow their ancestors... Oh hm.
     
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  11. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    so like i had this au once like a million years ago (for real, like PRE CASCADE forever ago.)
    where there was much more political involvement with alternian homeworld from the political landscape.
    And there was this minor faction of old as shit highbloods who were deeply offended with condie and were like
    "Alright this is IT this heirress will usurp the throne. Alright but we need her to have a strong and supportive moirail. Not that douchebag Dualscar's mini-me. No no, he's no good. Now, the condie is moirails with GHB yes? and GHB has a descendant in the very same batch as our heirress, yeeeeeees? I say they'd make good moirails, my man. Very good."
    and their contact in the Church nods sagely and they basically chat-harrass Fef and Gam into hooking up.
    And it's actually very nice until fef makes gamzee stop with the sopor and then she really drops the ball on helping him with his withdrawal symptoms (canon kinda brushed over the fact that there must have been SOME symptoms of withdrawal even if it wasn't sober!muderstuck!Gamzee) and then the church people keep trying to fuck with gamzee and basically they are terrible for eachother and gamzee goes from "Won't harm a fly" to "basically over-zealous vanguard of Feferi's cause" and Feferi goes from "culling should mean helping people not killing them and also hemo-equality!" to a sort of "Mother knows best" approach as her field of vision narrows down on "Everything will get better once we get rid of the condesce as long as we get that done it doesn't matter what we do to get there."
    At some point they stumble upon Sufferists, at a different point find out Karkat's blood color, they put 2 and 2 together and bully him into starting a revolution as The Second Coming Of The Sufferer and explicitly backing Fef as the Heirress and its a huge mess
     
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  12. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    My crackships are Jane<3Porrim and The Handmaid<3The Dolorosa. Because. Reasons.
     
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  13. Wiwaxia

    Wiwaxia problematic taxon

    I might have a hunch what maid you like them
     
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  14. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    oh my fucking lord
     
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  15. Deresto

    Deresto Foolish Mortal

    terezi <> sollux is still one of my faves. i blame troll cops. also following saccharinesylph on tumblr has given me a soft spot for erisolfef like whoa. i don't really have any otps though. i like shipping certain characters with a wide array of other characters sometimes at the same time ;).
     
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  16. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Upd8!

    Ugh, this conversation, with Calliope and Davepeta... creeps me out. Like, it's just encouraging Jade to accept passivity and fade away, and the whole thing about a 'greater Jade' bugs me and I can't quite put it into words. It's like, Jade does nothing, Jade should do nothing, Jade has to accept doing and being nothing? What even. And all of this revelation is coming too easily, as well.
     
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  17. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    To me it just came across as very Buddhist. Which I am happy about. GO GO GO. Because it's all very relatable to problems I myself have with things. Like I accept that, yes, I am in fact nothing. There is not a thing to me and I am actually entirely incapable of acting! In a permanent and lasting way! Yet that very nothingness is my greatest boon. It is my path towards Somethingness. It is my sword to cut through all illusion and distortion.

    But it's scary. So scary. I don't want to do it many times. I am scared of it and I am lonely. But this is my goal and this is what I know I will and must do. I must cut through with a Sword of Ultimate Wisdom and Ultimate Knowledge. You can do it Jade. You can wield the Blade.
     
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  18. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    But does that work with Jade and her character arc? Like, she's just been buffeted around by the story since... well, during everything that wasn't between her entering the Medium and her joining the Alpha session! She was following dream clouds, she was being controlled by the Condesce, she's knocked out. And this leaves her arc as starting to become an active player, before being shut down and told 'Nope. Don't do anything, don't have attachments to anyone, just go with whateverthefuck happens and suppress everything you want, including the desire to help the people you love with the strength that you have and, in fact, how about you separate off from those people you love? And repress any pain that you might have had from losing them, and also stop seeing yourself as a person and more as part of a greater Jade and really anything that happens to you is fun so long as it benefits Big Jade.

    I don't know why this is bothering me so much but it REALLY IS.
     
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  19. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    I would say so yes? But then I am coming at it from a very different paradigm. Like I was fucking furious when Aang chose to stay attached to Katara and rejected Detachment. Furious. Because it just didn't fit to me. It continues to not fit. What fit was dangled in my face and then taken away. To me this sort of thing is just a positive.
     
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  20. Kaylotta

    Kaylotta Writer Trash

    Hm! Interesting!

    I didn't read that at all, personally. I read it more as finding contentedness/wholeness with whatever path you're on, with the game/universe addition of the multiverse, where there are literal other versions of yourself which you can potentially tap into/combine with, and attainment of that coalescing of realities/selves seems to be considered the ultimate self-realization (which totally slots into Sburb's "play game => become god" thing)).

    [Side note: I find it fascinating that there's never any question of dominant or original personalities. When a character merges any/all of their timelines together, there's no separate consciousnesses struggling with the parallel timelines etc - there's just one unified person. An interesting take on the trope, though very convenient for the sake of the narrative.]

    I can absolutely see reading Jade's side of the conversation as "sit back and do nothing because everything's already happened/is happening to another version of you", but Davepeta immediately says that no, she should do what she wants to do - which reads to me as "sure, you can sit on your laurels, and you can also do things. it's your choice, your life, your agency". I guess then it's a matter of personal belief as to whether or not your individual choices matter on a universal level, and we could sit here all day and debate that one.

    HOWEVER, I definitely echo you on the weirdness of the conversation. It felt VERY glib, and I've never been able to determine how much sincerity is in Hussie's narrative when he does that. There has been a LOT of emphasis put on the statement that Jade should not wake up. Does that mean that she should not be allowed to make her own choices, re above? Hell no, I don't think so. Davepeta's point is sound, in my opinion, but the motives and consequences are completely unknown. (Thanks Hussie.)
     
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