We could have had it aaallllll- pet peeve fandoms

If they meant shipping her with...Dove? Dove. I a) support this, and b) was thinking this while I read it.
I liked crowboy, but I would have liked him more as something less...love interest-y.
still better than Daine's romantic subplot.

 

Dove and uhhhh whatserhername. Ally. I'd ship the fucking hell out of that, but I also shipped Ally with the one general dude who saw right through her spy games.

(I did love her and Nawat, but Nawat's development would have worked better outside of their relationship I think.)

 

I think that was it, yeah. And absolutely agreed on Nawat. (It actually kind of skeeved me out, because he didn't read to me like an adult with the same maturity level as her.)

And yeah. :::///

 

I shipped Ally with him too! I shipped her with a lot of people, actually.
(If it had been a, he gets development and then maybe in an entirely different series they hook up, I would have been fine. I liked his awkward birb antics, but it would have been less awkward if he got more time to human before romance.)

whyyyyy did the immortals love subplot have to happen, I can never read the last book because I get too ragey.

 

I think it might have worked better if it had been a quartet like her earlier series rather than two books. Even if the pagecount was the same, it would have had a bit more sense of time if it had had more story beats to hit.

Can we all agree "Ozorne's bitter spadescrush on Numaire" had more chemistry than the endgame couple in Immortals, even putting aside the issue of the creepy age/power gap?

 

Yes, and frankly Neil was right about him being too old for Diane, even if he was a lovestruck baby himself.

 

Yeah, I can see that working a lot better.

yes, yes it did. That's what I was shipping, even before itty bitty me knew what shipping was.

EXACTLY.

 

I think I ot3d Aly/Nawat/the god person despite agreeing w the above critisism concerning Nawat being a better character if he wasn't also a love interest because ot3s are just my instinctive response to love triangles by now
and also because there's just something ABOUT ships involving gods and their devotees, you know what I mean?
((i think i dropped it by the... boat incident? I can't even fully remember what this was about. I just remember it as the boat incident. Aly was horrified by the difference in morality between her the human and him the god and i was like jeez fine if youre not gonna like him anymore go have fun with crow boy i guess but honestly aly HOW ARE YOU SURPRISED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT))

i remember being incredibly UNINTERESTED but not particularly squicked out by early tortall books romance subplots
probably bc when i read them i was the same age as the characters or notably younger and just didn't react to the age differences at all

 

real talk I haven't read the tortall books since I was little enough to not really notice the flaws and im nostalgic enough (my copy of Lioness Rampant is signed!) that I would probably still love them anyway but

while we're on the subject

roger ♠ alanna

 

I read them when I was younger than the characters (I think I was like 7-9?)

yes please.

 

Roger and Allana were like... textbook pitch romance, age difference aside.

 

Mm yeah I think I was 9-10? Maybe younger, maybe not
Was definitely older - early teens? mid-teens? - for the Keladry books and after, though, because those were never translated to Swedish. I remember being ecstatic when i went to reread a childhood fave in the original language and found out there were MORE :')

 

Yeah, I read Kel when I was middle school age, I think.
I liked those a lot, I think because most of the stuff that had bothered me about the previous books (the romantic subplots, mostly) got kicked.

 

she dreams about angrily dancing with him! she says Jon is the most handsome person she knows, quote, INCLUDING roger! she keeps talking about how she'd be attracted to him if only he wasn't so evil

and then their dynamic in the last book is so much my jam - the way it's almost comforting for her to slip into bantering with him... yes. it is a good. I only wish thom<3roger had actually been canon, even if I understand the author not wanting to make only her villains gay. bc.. twin threesomes.. Alanna would be even angrier... etc

(you know, I posted about my love for this ship on tumblr and no one bugged me, which is surprising in retrospect)

 

They really were. To the point of making small me mildly uncomfortable for reasons I couldn't place at the time. :::PPP

 

Books published in 1988. Hence, fandom not being actively policed.

It's really consistent.

 

<3/<3< twin threesomes yes please. my terrible ship.
honestly, there were a lot of good terrible alanna ships. What was that flirty girl's name, Delia? I remember finding a fic for that and being like HMM.

 

(X)

edit: was it Delia or Josianne who hurt Faithful in the last book? I can forgive ship necromancers but not cat-hurters.

 

It was Josianne. Fuck that chick. Faithful is best kitty.

 

.. I suddenly can't remember if Delia made Alanna uncomfortable by flirting with her in canon, or if that was just in a fanfic I read? Good either way tbh