Mihi Ad Latinam Traducas - Translate This Into Latin For Me

Omg I love everyone in this bar. Will put more coherent thoughts together later. <3 <3 <3

 

I'm super torn about which "inspire" verb to use. I like the imagery of inspiration and breathing in; I also love the multitude of meanings in move. I'm less inclined to go with inice/incute, not because I don't love the insistence of them, but because we already touch on the insistence with influo. I also really like the images associated with the Vestal fire - great confluence of imagery b/t Roman and Christian, v interesting.

...this is making me want to write more things for y'all.

 

@Kaylotta Please do, it's beautiful and we are exactly the kind of dorks who find it fun.

Now, here's what I think we've got so far?

 

Cool, then I totally will. There's something very satisfying about having one's words translated into Latin. :D

I noodled around and added a bit, here's what I like so far...

Cæcilia beata, vox dulcis ætheris
quando exerceam confiamque, vadas mecum
cum ardore sacro, inspires cantica mei
influat musica ut æsti crescendi
Sancta Cæcilia, moveas [my spirit],
moveas [my spirit, for the glory of God.]

I couldn't decide between inspire and move so I added and intensified, plus I ended it more like a prayer.

 

(Not that it's my business obvs but) I would've picked caeli! Because I love the echo of Cæcilia/cæli and because it makes me think of "domine deus, rex coelestis".

Edit after work: also "descendit de caelis"/"ascendit in caelum"

 

I definitely thought about the echo and wondered if it would be too same-y within the same line...but I dunno! I do really like the callbacks to other standard liturgical Latin bits, like you mentioned.

EDIT: just realized "caeli" would make more rhyming happen, which I was liking, so, yeah let's go with that. XD

 

I would like to request a translation of the following two phrases:
"fall from grace", possible dual meaning of "fall from a high place"
"breach of faith"

 

Caelum it is! As for the extended version, "my spirit/soul" would be "animam/animum meam" unless I've got something wrong. Meanwhile, "For the greater glory of God" is in fact the Jesuit motto, and translates as "ad maiorem Dei gloriam". Just toss out the "maiorem" for the shorter phrase, and of course as before the phrases can be rearranged as you like.

Looking into @whimsicalobservant 's stuff. Do you want "fall" as a verb or a noun?

 

Okay, so here's the thing. The most direct translation of "grace" is "gratia", and "ex gratia" already has a widely-recognized meaning, which is a payment made out of a sense of moral obligation rather than any legal requirement.

I've been looking up other words that refer to being in others' good graces, and there are a few, but I haven't been able to find one that also refers to a physical height- one source claims "fastigium" meant both, but I haven't been able to find it elsewhere as anything but an architectural apex... or, having been recruited into modern medicine, as the most intense period of a disease's progression. Not very "gracey".

What do you think of "dignitas"? It's not just "dignity", it was really a very loaded term in classical Rome. It was like... the sum total of someone's status, influence, good name, honor, all that stuff. People literally killed- others or themselves- rather than lose it. If we're going to bring in Vesta's sacred fire, why not this too, right?

 

@OnnaStik what's the difference b/t animam and animum? is it gender?

 

As far as I can tell, yeah.

 

cool. am i right in assuming a = feminine?

 

@Kaylotta Looks awesome! :D This is so much fun, guys.

In this case, yes, a = feminine. That's usually true, unless you have Weird Shit happening, or it's a plural neuter (e.g., datum -> data).

Translation note: I actually highly recommend Wiktionary. They have a lot of vocabulary, and it usually has conjugation tables, which is so nice.

I'm cross-referencing with Perseus and general googlefu to make sure I'm not missing idiomatic phrases, and to check usage. But that is because I am a sperg.

 

the only thing i know about latin is when i was trying to learn the basics from this ancient textbook (i'm talking over a hundred years old) it tried to explain plurals by using the example sentence "i own one negro, as opposed to i own many negroes" and i was pretty sure it was in the context of people so you know.
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this thread is pretty neat though.

 

Fall as a noun, please, and dignitas sounds good

 

I'm actually hoping for a Latin to english translation! Specifically, "fama est mors."

 

Ooh, I know this!

'Fame is dead'

 

GASP. Thank you!

 

Okay, I have seen this thread, and I love this thread, yet for the past (amount of time) I have been trying to remember what phrase I have wanted in Latin, because I was certain there was something but I had forgotten what. BUT I JUST REMEMBERED!!

The phrase is "the floor is lava". For additional context that may influence the translation, this is going to be used for my Flight Rising clan's motto (fire flight obvsly). It's inspired by the game where you pretend the floor is lava (also obvsly) and you have to stay on furniture. Except, like, my dragons live in a place where the floor is literally lava or could be lava at any moment. I think I tried to do this myself once and gave up because I couldn't nuance. I think I was having problems with "floor" specifically, because saying it like "ground" kind of loses some of the silliness since lava is often on the ground.

 

Okay, fun fact: "lava" has a Latin homonym! ...which is a command to "wash!"

I think the "floor" you want is probably "tabulatum", which can also refer to a story of a building, so that's nicely silly for you. "Lava" is a bit more difficult. Apparently it's derived from Latin, but "labes" for a slide or fall, so going the etymological route would just mean the floor is collapsing. "tabulatum conflatile est" would mean "the floor is molten", which could work.

We could also borrow "magma", in the best Roman tradition of stealing Greek shit... the literal meaning is "paste" but you're making a joke, not trying to communicate with classical-era time travelers. That would just be "tabulatum magma est", I believe.

...and I should get off my ass on the other translation I started, too. @whimsicalobservant : "lapsus ex venia" is a decent "a fall out of (someone's good) grace" if it's okay for it to sound like... well, it's the word used for the expressions for "slip of the tongue/pen/finger", so think of that level of whoopsie. Or I kind of like the juxtaposition of trivial vs. serious if it's "lapsus ex dignitate".