copy-pasting all the Skype discussion in. may take several posts Spoiler: skype discussion [6/27/16, 11:11:14 PM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu added Nick to this conversation [6/27/16, 11:11:26 PM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu has renamed this conversation to “Kintsugi NWoD Discussion” [6/27/16, 11:11:28 PM] Zin Karyuu: *waves* [6/27/16, 11:12:02 PM] dwarf lover: wherefore art thou Romeo? [6/27/16, 11:12:16 PM] Zin Karyuu: Wait, I'm Romeo? I thought you were Romeo? [6/27/16, 11:12:23 PM] Nick: Hello [6/27/16, 11:12:37 PM] dwarf lover: we are all slowly approaching a state of 1=Romeo [6/27/16, 11:12:48 PM] Zin Karyuu: I suppose that works out. [6/27/16, 11:12:50 PM] Zin Karyuu: So. [6/27/16, 11:12:54 PM] Zin Karyuu: My dear Melkiah. [6/27/16, 11:13:09 PM] Zin Karyuu: I am volunteering you to explain how Changeling best fits into NWoDs weird little boxes [6/27/16, 11:13:15 PM] Zin Karyuu: and to please not knock over my tea :( [6/27/16, 11:15:18 PM] dwarf lover: I will try the tea thing [6/27/16, 11:17:27 PM] dwarf lover: so nWOD usually sticks to a formula for it splats: 1. 5 races, 5 classes 2. an evil version of your own splat to fight 3. magic system, typically in a linear progression of different kinds 4. a weakness [6/27/16, 11:20:16 PM] dwarf lover: in changling you actually: 1. have more then 5 races, and less then that in classes, but they feel very fairy-esque which is nice. 2. Evil version is the people who fight for the other side, either because of a twisted arm, Stockholm syndrome, or being still enslaved to them. Usually there are just people who are BONKERS and want to kill their own kind for no justifiable reason. 3. Magic system is contracts, and has oaths you can swear which yet again, plays into the fairy mythos. 4. The weakness? Can you guess? Yep. fairies, it's the usual. [6/27/16, 11:20:27 PM] dwarf lover: now does anyone actually care about that? [6/27/16, 11:21:01 PM] Nick: Huh [6/27/16, 11:21:05 PM] Nick: I like it so far [6/27/16, 11:25:11 PM] Zin Karyuu: One of the things I really enjoy is that you can basically be any bloody thing you want, as well... like, if you've seen the animation of .. http://geekologie.com/2016/06/motion-capture-madness-amazing-cgi-danci.php this? [6/27/16, 11:25:23 PM] Zin Karyuu: You could say your changeling looked like that. [6/27/16, 11:28:46 PM] dwarf lover: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueend [6/27/16, 11:28:49 PM] dwarf lover: I like better [6/27/16, 11:29:34 PM] Zin Karyuu: Well, yes, if you're going to use art straight from the book. [6/27/16, 11:29:47 PM] Zin Karyuu: Incidentally, Far Right inspired Amelia's design. [6/27/16, 11:29:55 PM] dwarf lover: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/18138266/ [6/27/16, 11:29:55 PM] Zin Karyuu: In combination with a few other things. [6/27/16, 11:30:28 PM] Zin Karyuu: Be warned, links ARE to archived 4chan posts, so. ymmv. [6/27/16, 11:30:54 PM] Zin Karyuu: Also not... 100% accurate, depending on the GM. [6/27/16, 11:32:34 PM] Zin Karyuu: It also assumes the very worst of the possible ways the time in Faerie can go, which... is not always true. You may just be there to clean the house for five years, then get booted back into the mortal realm forever changed. [6/27/16, 11:32:36 PM] Zin Karyuu: Fae are fickle. [6/27/16, 11:34:03 PM] dwarf lover: yeah the first few all caps posts are the standard setting [6/27/16, 11:34:06 PM] dwarf lover: for the most part [6/27/16, 11:34:26 PM] dwarf lover: also it's ALL opinions, and ST/DM are ALWAYS free to change shit to their own whims [6/27/16, 11:34:40 PM] dwarf lover: so... i'd read the first few posts as a prelude/expectation [6/27/16, 11:34:43 PM] dwarf lover: and then stop [6/27/16, 11:35:10 PM] Zin Karyuu: ...they are someone's interpretation of the standard setting, love. [6/27/16, 11:35:18 PM] Zin Karyuu: And also include optional rules from later books. [6/27/16, 11:35:25 PM] Zin Karyuu: Hence YMMV. [6/27/16, 11:46:10 PM] Zin Karyuu: *fidgets* [6/28/16, 12:04:16 AM] dwarf lover: dwarf lover has left the conversation [6/28/16, 12:16:48 AM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu added dwarf lover to this conversation [6/28/16, 12:16:56 AM] Zin Karyuu: Rabbit, be social. [6/28/16, 12:17:05 AM] Zin Karyuu: Or at least post in-thread on Kintsugi. [6/28/16, 12:17:24 AM] Nick: Look there's just the three of us [6/28/16, 12:17:33 AM] Nick: And I don't bite and you two know each other [6/28/16, 12:18:46 AM] Zin Karyuu: YEs, I'm looking at him and trying to nudge him at being social. [6/28/16, 12:35:29 PM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu added Onna Stik to this conversation [6/28/16, 12:35:33 PM] Zin Karyuu: One more! [6/28/16, 12:35:42 PM] Onna Stik: \o/ [6/28/16, 12:35:58 PM] Onna Stik: ...I did not know it would do that... [6/28/16, 12:37:00 PM] Zin Karyuu: Hehe [6/28/16, 12:37:19 PM] Onna Stik: Anyway, hi guys. :) [6/28/16, 12:37:40 PM] Zin Karyuu: So we have Bel, Mek, Onna, the mysterious Melkiah who keeps refusing to post on kintsugi because he's a butt, and me :3 [6/28/16, 12:42:01 PM] Nick: Hello [6/28/16, 12:42:10 PM] Onna Stik: Hi! [6/28/16, 12:48:49 PM] Zin Karyuu: Got real life nightmare fuel discussion on walk - landing at an airport in a country your parents are citizens of and getting drafted [6/28/16, 12:48:54 PM] Zin Karyuu: HSSSK [6/28/16, 12:49:24 PM] Onna Stik: Shit. [6/28/16, 12:52:41 PM] Nick: ?? [6/28/16, 12:53:06 PM] Onna Stik: What Zin said? [6/28/16, 12:53:18 PM] Zin Karyuu: Ye... [6/28/16, 12:55:50 PM] Nick: Yeah [6/28/16, 12:57:10 PM] Nick: Wtf happened [6/28/16, 1:34:07 PM] Zin Karyuu: Coworker told me that the cousins of a friend in korea got drafted right off the plane, though it sounds like they got out by revoking their korean citizenship? [6/28/16, 1:34:59 PM] Zin Karyuu: So. Not a good. [6/28/16, 1:35:49 PM] Zin Karyuu: Also: Mortal Prelude for Changelings vs Sin-Eaters : As Melkiah said to me yesterday "A mortal prelude to sin-eater is easy. All you have to do is Die." [6/28/16, 1:36:11 PM] Onna Stik: Exactly. [6/28/16, 1:36:17 PM] Nick: Yeah, easy [6/28/16, 1:39:04 PM] Zin Karyuu: Changeling is arguably one of the splats with the longest possible run-up, depending on how you want to swing it. For instance, in one game my friend asked to play an alternate version of himself, and requested I take on the role of their keeper - which was actually very fun and also unsettling, as it requires looking at my own driving impulses and desires... which settled on "when i was hella depressed, my world revolved around rp. The true fae version would run on stories and plot and playing games... and take Very Badly to people trying to escape their plots and roles." [6/28/16, 1:39:40 PM] Nick: Huh [6/28/16, 1:39:54 PM] Nick: What is a mortal prelude exactly [6/28/16, 1:42:27 PM] Zin Karyuu: You start as human. No splat. Arguably no experience with the supernatural, though you may have an interest and may, possibly, sense ghosts or have run into weird things and just thought "no, I'm imagining things" ( or believe wholeheartedly but have no way into that circle or etc. L [6/28/16, 1:42:44 PM] Nick: What is a splat [6/28/16, 1:43:13 PM] Zin Karyuu: Changeling, Vampire, Werewolf, Mage, Sin-Eater, Monster Hunter, Etc. :) [6/28/16, 1:43:19 PM] Nick: Okay [6/28/16, 1:43:23 PM] Zin Karyuu: Sorry, used to doing the gamebook reference [6/28/16, 1:43:28 PM] Nick: Sokay [6/28/16, 1:43:45 PM] Nick: I learn quickly, I just need some help at the beginning [6/28/16, 1:43:50 PM] Zin Karyuu: nod [6/28/16, 1:44:13 PM] Nick: You said changeling has the longest run up, what is a run up? [6/28/16, 1:44:18 PM] Zin Karyuu: Gotta scurry back to the desk [6/28/16, 1:44:23 PM] Nick: Okay [6/28/16, 1:44:31 PM] Zin Karyuu: Oh, well. The change from human to otherwise [6/28/16, 1:44:39 PM] Nick: Okay [6/28/16, 1:44:40 PM] Zin Karyuu: It can be.. well. Long, depending. [6/28/16, 1:44:43 PM] Nick: Thank you [6/28/16, 1:50:07 PM] Zin Karyuu: Frank in melkiah's linked thread is actually a good example? [6/28/16, 1:50:49 PM] Nick: Okay Spoiler: skype discussion 2 [6/28/16, 2:02:55 PM] Nick: I kinda want to nwodify Mutt [6/28/16, 2:04:17 PM] Zin Karyuu: He he [6/28/16, 2:04:34 PM] Onna Stik: Who? [6/28/16, 2:04:47 PM] Nick: One of my characters [6/28/16, 2:04:56 PM] Nick: I was telling Zin about them [6/28/16, 2:08:40 PM] Nick: They're a changeling and I think I'd only have to modify their backstory a little bit to fit [6/28/16, 2:09:09 PM] Onna Stik: Cool :) what are they like? [6/28/16, 2:09:32 PM] Nick: One sec [6/28/16, 2:12:08 PM] Nick: So in the story mutt is from, the fairies were less interested in them and more interested in the other half of the changeling pair, mica [6/28/16, 2:12:26 PM] Nick: So mutt was neglected and ignored for a long time [6/28/16, 2:12:53 PM] Nick: And then this other faction that was trying to rebel was like "come over to us, we won't ignore you" [6/28/16, 2:13:14 PM] Nick: And so mutt did, and the other faction proceeded to abuse the hell out of them [6/28/16, 2:13:49 PM] Nick: Except that mutt didn't have anything to compare that to except the neglect, so they thought it was all okay [6/28/16, 2:14:09 PM] Nick: And then the other faction gets their hands on mica, and they hand him over to mutt [6/28/16, 2:14:35 PM] Nick: Mutt blames mica for the fact that they couldn't have the life they were born into [6/28/16, 2:14:50 PM] Nick: So, they torture him and then steal his true name [6/28/16, 2:14:59 PM] Nick: Some other stuff happens but basically that's mutt [6/28/16, 2:15:33 PM] Onna Stik: Ow. [6/28/16, 2:15:48 PM] Nick: Yeah [6/28/16, 2:16:50 PM] Nick: Hold on, I can get you some quotes [6/28/16, 2:18:31 PM] Nick: Pov character is what's left after mutt took mica's true name [6/28/16, 2:18:34 PM] Nick: When you wake, there’s someone else in the room. Not a nervous man, not Calyx. They wouldn’t put someone else in here, would they? You’re important. An experiment. Something new. But these are times of war. Maybe this other person is only here for a short time, Maybe there’s just not enough room. Maybe they snuck in – no, they’re tied up too. You sit up and try to get a better look, and they seem to realize you’re awake and turn to look at you. “Have they stuck a name on you yet?” they ask, and you try to scramble backwards but your hands aren’t used to movement yet and you fall. This is the voice you heard in the back of your head when you were still a proper monster. “That’s no way to greet a friend,” they continue. “I know you better than anyone else does. I put you together, after all.” “You stole my name.” Your voice wavers. “You made me this.” They start crawling towards you and you try again to move away but they’re too fast. “No,” they say. “You made me this.” “I didn’t do anything, I’m not even real, I’m empty inside, stop!” They’ve reached you and they’ve pinned you to the ground. “Your name tasted so nice,” they say. “It came to me so easily, like it belonged to me.” They lean down to your ear and whisper. “As it should have.” “Calyx! Calyx! Ca-“ They shove their hands over your mouth. “No one’s awake,” they tell you. “No one will be awake for hours. I can do whatever I want until then.” You make yourself go still. “I didn’t eat your name,” they say. “I tied it around my tongue. I could make you do anything with it. But I don’t want to do that.” They take their hands off your mouth. “No?” you ask, feeling that they want you to say something about this. “No. You’re going to do everything I say, or I’ll eat your name right now. Any chance you have of being Mica again…” “If I do what you say, will you give it back to me?” They laugh. “No. I made you all nice and hollow and I like you that way.” “What do you want?” “What do I want?” They laugh again, higher, longer. “I want the life back that you stole from me. But I can’t have that, can I? So what I want is you, broken, not a person. Without a life, without even a chance at a life.” They run a finger over your healing lip. “I was so disappointed when they decided to send you out on a suicide mission. I hadn’t nearly finished breaking you yet.” [6/28/16, 2:19:58 PM] Nick: A while after that: [6/28/16, 2:20:56 PM] Nick: Calyx has to hold Mutt’s head still while he unties the gag, and even as he’s pulling it off Mutt is trying to bite at his fingers. Calyx retreats to a safe distance. “What did you do to Mica?” he asks. Mutt smiles, grins, bares their teeth with pride. “I pulled his wings apart. Shredded them. It took me forty seven days. I went so slowly they almost healed faster than I was breaking them. He didn’t understand why I was hurting him. He kept begging me to let him go. He cried.” Calyx has gone stiff. He opens his mouth to respond, but Mutt barrels on ahead. “Within days he started crying for help the moment he saw me. Some days I didn’t even touch him, just sat there watching him. After a month I got to the roots of his wings and he screamed.” Mutt’s eyes light up as they speak. “So weak beneath my fingers and my knives. He said he’d do anything, you know, to get free of me. But he deserved it. He deserved to feel as helpless as – he deserved to hurt. His wings will never grow back. I cut out the joi-“ “Stop! Stop! Stop!” Calyx has finally broken out of his silence. You’re still stuck, eyes wide, phantom pain from your wings making your head spin. Mutt laughs. “You asked what I did.” Calyx swallows his rage, or tries to. “I don’t want to hear your sick delight for torturing people. I just need to hear what exactly you did.” “I say what I want, or I won’t talk to you,” Mutt tells him. “You can’t make me talk.” “I don’t understand how you became this,” Calyx says. “You were so quiet, before. You didn’t hurt anyone. No one hurt you.” Mutt lets out a cry of rage and tries to launch themselves towards Calyx but the restraints hold them back and they fall to the ground, digging futilely at the floor with their fists. “Fuck you! Fuck you! You don’t know anything, you don’t know anything. I liked hurting him. I liked hearing him hurt, and I’d pick you apart the same way, you bastard! I’d break you just the same!” [6/28/16, 2:21:16 PM] Nick: And that should give you a decent impression of mutt [6/28/16, 2:24:41 PM] Nick: ......did I scare you off? [6/28/16, 2:25:45 PM] Onna Stik: Nah, I was getting a snack actually and then I was reading. [6/28/16, 2:26:06 PM] Nick: Okay, I was worried for a minute [6/28/16, 2:26:16 PM] Nick: What do you think [6/28/16, 2:26:27 PM] Onna Stik: Pretty intense! [6/28/16, 2:27:27 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 2:28:49 PM] Onna Stik: I'm kind of a marshmallow in RP, I always want to do the Good Things. :/ [6/28/16, 2:29:13 PM] Nick: That's fine [6/28/16, 2:29:18 PM] Nick: It means I don't have to [6/28/16, 2:29:46 PM] Nick: And I do that plenty - one of the characters I play the most is Cyprian, who is just innocent and trusting and genuine [6/28/16, 2:31:44 PM] Zin Karyuu: nod Melkiah tends to end up as a moral center even if he doesn't mean to be... and even as a GM I have to remind myself it's ok to be terrible - in a horror game, that's the expectation. [6/28/16, 2:32:16 PM] Nick: Call [6/28/16, 2:32:18 PM] Zin Karyuu: I'm getting better at being mean... but most of my main pov characters tend to be have a strong moral core [6/28/16, 2:32:33 PM] Nick: Nick nodnod [6/28/16, 2:32:47 PM] Zin Karyuu: Even if their sense of morality may be off kilter [6/28/16, 2:33:10 PM] Zin Karyuu: Getting to play people with blue and orange tinted morality is very interesting, though [6/28/16, 2:33:24 PM] Nick: Cyprian would be an interesting changeling because he just /doesn't break/ [6/28/16, 2:33:24 PM] Onna Stik: Ooh, yeah. [6/28/16, 2:33:34 PM] Nick: I don't want to play him here but it would be fun to see [6/28/16, 2:33:44 PM] Zin Karyuu: *nodj [6/28/16, 2:33:56 PM] Zin Karyuu: I'm willing to let people run more characters as time goes [6/28/16, 2:34:05 PM] Zin Karyuu: Just need to get a good handle on playstyles and what works [6/28/16, 2:34:09 PM] Zin Karyuu: Feedback is always good [6/28/16, 2:34:11 PM] Nick: Yeah of course [6/28/16, 2:34:37 PM] Nick: Okay so what do I actually need to do/fill out for a character [6/28/16, 2:34:54 PM] Zin Karyuu: Well, we can make stats, skills, etc [6/28/16, 2:35:29 PM] Zin Karyuu: I am likely to go with easy progression instead of book, and allow point buy- but that's generally better for people who know the system inside and out [6/28/16, 2:35:41 PM] Zin Karyuu: Starting mortal, you figure out who you were before [6/28/16, 2:35:50 PM] Zin Karyuu: From there, we carve out stats and skills [6/28/16, 2:36:16 PM] Zin Karyuu: Generally speaking, you have up to 5 points in a skill or attribute. Attributes all have a free base of 1. [6/28/16, 2:37:08 PM] Zin Karyuu: Mental: Intelligence Wits Resolve Physical: Strength Dexterity Stamina Social: Presence Manipulation Composure [6/28/16, 2:37:59 PM] Zin Karyuu: For attributes you can add 5 dots to one group, 4 to another, and 3 to the final, though I'm ok with discussing and negotiating that to suit a character better. [6/28/16, 2:40:53 PM] Zin Karyuu: ...slides back into desk
I would like to apologize, by the way, as I'm probably assuming lurker tendencies of people, even if it is inaccurate. Uhm. So. I do apologize for that. If you want to get the ball rolling on anything, please let me know - that's my bat signal.
Spoiler: skype discussion 3 [6/28/16, 2:42:29 PM] Nick: .....hm. Zin, is the counterpart always a fetch, or could I have mica be part of the backstory? [6/28/16, 2:43:02 PM] Zin Karyuu: In on with twisting things >:3c [6/28/16, 2:43:57 PM] Nick: ??? Can't parse [6/28/16, 2:52:10 PM] Zin Karyuu: Sorry, phone [6/28/16, 2:52:20 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yes, that could work [6/28/16, 2:52:32 PM] Nick: Okay, thank you [6/28/16, 3:00:47 PM] Zin Karyuu: We can hammer out details later :) [6/28/16, 3:00:54 PM] Onna Stik: I have these things kicking around in my head that I really cannot decide between. Alas. Also I don't think I can just squish them all into the same character. [6/28/16, 3:02:20 PM] Zin Karyuu: Hehehe [6/28/16, 3:02:40 PM] Nick: Please tell us all the things [6/28/16, 3:02:49 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yes [6/28/16, 3:03:54 PM] Onna Stik: A visual image of a peacock where all the eyespots are actual eyes. They blink every now and then, one or two at a time. The little thingies on the crest, also eyes. It is very good at watching. [6/28/16, 3:04:38 PM] Nick: Ooooooooh [6/28/16, 3:05:02 PM] Onna Stik: A nature photographer who had a nasty run-in with Murphy's Law out in the desert, culminating in her death from heatstroke. She affectionately calls her geist "sunshine". [6/28/16, 3:05:35 PM] Zin Karyuu: :D [6/28/16, 3:07:11 PM] Onna Stik: A swan-themed character who actually acts like a swan. In other words, TOTAL ASSHOLE. [6/28/16, 3:07:19 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yessss [6/28/16, 3:07:39 PM] Zin Karyuu: This is why i have 50+ channeling fyu [6/28/16, 3:07:45 PM] Onna Stik: ? [6/28/16, 3:08:00 PM] Onna Stik: ...those are the most coherent of the thoughts. [6/28/16, 3:08:09 PM] Zin Karyuu: I have lots of changelings because they're delicious to make and visualize [6/28/16, 3:08:17 PM] Zin Karyuu: I just roll happily in changeling [6/28/16, 3:08:17 PM] Onna Stik: Ah. [6/28/16, 3:08:25 PM] Onna Stik: Aren't they though? [6/28/16, 3:08:35 PM] Nick: I will gladly join you in that, Zin [6/28/16, 3:08:54 PM] Nick: Hey Zin [6/28/16, 3:09:13 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yessss? [6/28/16, 3:09:15 PM] Nick: If someone made seven clones of you into assassins [6/28/16, 3:09:23 PM] Nick: Would they be seven deadly Zins? [6/28/16, 3:09:32 PM] Onna Stik: booooooooooooooo [6/28/16, 3:09:49 PM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu cackles [6/28/16, 3:11:44 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 3:12:16 PM] Nick: Changelings are very fun though [6/28/16, 3:14:30 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yes [6/28/16, 3:14:59 PM] Zin Karyuu: Martin, for instance, is a Darking Lurkglider of the court of Desire [6/28/16, 3:15:06 PM] Zin Karyuu: ( Spring ) [6/28/16, 3:15:32 PM] Nick: Elaborate [6/28/16, 3:16:18 PM] Zin Karyuu: So Darkling is a broad category - there is also Wizened. Fairest. Elemental. Beast. I think I'm missing another one. [6/28/16, 3:16:59 PM] Onna Stik: Ogre. [6/28/16, 3:18:15 PM] Zin Karyuu: That's the base idea - and that gives a broad category "you get bonuses to shadow contracts, minus to using abilities in direct sunlight," etc. Lurkglider is basically gargoyle - he can spend a magic point (glamour) to not take damage from a fall of, like... 100m? Plus a bonus to keeping his balance on ledges and other precarious places. [6/28/16, 3:18:54 PM] Zin Karyuu: Desire/spring court means he getz a bonus to gather glamour from people's desires [6/28/16, 3:19:26 PM] Nick: So that's why he was all emotional vampire [6/28/16, 3:19:37 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yes [6/28/16, 3:19:45 PM] Zin Karyuu: Om nom nom let me fulfill your desires [6/28/16, 3:20:00 PM] Zin Karyuu: There is legit a trick in the book that lets you read someone's desires [6/28/16, 3:20:06 PM] Nick: Nice [6/28/16, 3:20:12 PM] Zin Karyuu: In story he uses this to give someone the drink they want at the bar [6/28/16, 3:20:48 PM] Zin Karyuu: And Emily manages to have a brick wall for a brain zo he gets a migraine from her later :T because why ask questions when you can just read their brain??? [6/28/16, 3:21:09 PM] Nick: Martin, no. No. That's not how people work [6/28/16, 3:21:24 PM] Zin Karyuu: That's an excellent summary. [6/28/16, 3:22:31 PM] Nick: So what are the other seasons? [6/28/16, 3:22:40 PM] Zin Karyuu: Also Rosie's reaction shortly after his return when he thought sex was the most basic component of expressing affection. He's better about it now, but sleeps around casually and chronically. [6/28/16, 3:23:08 PM] Zin Karyuu: Spring - Desire Summer - Anger Fall - Fear Winter - Sorrow [6/28/16, 3:25:10 PM] Nick: And they get bonuses from.. Other people's anger, fear, sorrow respectively? [6/28/16, 3:25:47 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yes. Traditionally by inciting the emotions, but I allow for vicinirt harvesting [6/28/16, 3:25:52 PM] Zin Karyuu: *vicinity [6/28/16, 3:26:04 PM] Nick: So mutt would be fall [6/28/16, 3:26:07 PM] Zin Karyuu: Oh you're sad I'm just gonna. Sit here. [6/28/16, 3:26:08 PM] Zin Karyuu: Hehe. [6/28/16, 3:27:08 PM] Nick: So how do the categories work? [6/28/16, 3:27:38 PM] Zin Karyuu: Which categories? [6/28/16, 3:27:54 PM] Nick: The ones you said earlier [6/28/16, 3:27:56 PM] Zin Karyuu: http://www.angelfire.com/punk/wodgeek/NWoDbasiccreation.html is a good quickstart [6/28/16, 3:27:58 PM] Zin Karyuu: Ah! [6/28/16, 3:28:09 PM] Onna Stik: It's like... what you were used for. [6/28/16, 3:28:19 PM] Zin Karyuu: Or linked to it [6/28/16, 3:29:35 PM] Zin Karyuu: http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Seeming_(CTL) [6/28/16, 3:31:05 PM] Zin Karyuu: And subtypes of seeming are here - http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Kith_(CTL) [6/28/16, 3:31:25 PM] Zin Karyuu: We can homebrew seemings and kiths nod [6/28/16, 3:33:25 PM] Zin Karyuu: ...and if you like more than one I absolutely allow mix and match. [6/28/16, 3:33:40 PM] Zin Karyuu: Even have a merit for it :D [6/28/16, 3:34:03 PM] Nick: I have no clue where to even begin [6/28/16, 3:34:19 PM] Zin Karyuu: Start with mortal mutt [6/28/16, 3:34:21 PM] Zin Karyuu: nod [6/28/16, 3:34:42 PM] Zin Karyuu: Who were they before everything. [6/28/16, 3:34:46 PM] Zin Karyuu: nodnod [6/28/16, 3:34:53 PM] Zin Karyuu: ...hell, gotta go back to work. [6/28/16, 3:35:00 PM] Nick: Okay, ttyl Spoiler: skype discussion 4 [6/28/16, 3:35:02 PM] Onna Stik: Aw. :( see you [6/28/16, 3:35:50 PM] Zin Karyuu: 4 hours to go, I'll be back in 2 for break :3c [6/28/16, 5:00:46 PM] Zin Karyuu: FYI SOMETIMES THE PROGRAMS I USE TAKE MINUTES TO ADJUST THEIR SETTINGS. I HATE IT. I DID HOWEVER GET A CHUNK OF KRISTOPH WRITTEN. [6/28/16, 5:00:57 PM] Onna Stik: ? [6/28/16, 5:01:08 PM] Zin Karyuu: One of many writing projects. :0 [6/28/16, 5:01:14 PM] Onna Stik: ah. [6/28/16, 5:01:27 PM] Nick: Yay!!! [6/28/16, 5:01:52 PM] Zin Karyuu: Oh - mortal to changeling -> if you're indecisive on what works, I can absolutely help work through possibilities through the actual prelude/run up to game proper. [6/28/16, 5:02:39 PM] Onna Stik: tbh I think I'm gonna go with Heatstroke Photographer. "Sunshine" is just too amusing to pass up. [6/28/16, 5:02:42 PM] Zin Karyuu: I've even had people go "okay, surprise me", so. Everything can be worked out and discussed [6/28/16, 5:02:46 PM] Zin Karyuu: Hehe ok :D [6/28/16, 5:03:00 PM] Zin Karyuu: That does sound super fun, sooo :3c [6/28/16, 5:03:03 PM] Nick: I'd like some help/guidance please [6/28/16, 5:03:40 PM] Zin Karyuu: Will do! I'll be here for 15 minutes solid come 230 pst, and home by 5pm pst. [6/28/16, 5:03:53 PM] Nick: Which one is pst [6/28/16, 5:04:01 PM] Zin Karyuu: In terms of base creation or changeling walkthrough? [6/28/16, 5:04:05 PM] Zin Karyuu: California time [6/28/16, 5:04:09 PM] Nick: Ah okay [6/28/16, 5:04:31 PM] Nick: I'm not sure [6/28/16, 5:05:38 PM] Zin Karyuu: Ok :) [6/28/16, 5:05:49 PM] Onna Stik: I'm about to relocate but I would appreciate some assistance as well in a bit? I probably sound confident in my knowledge but technically I've never done this before. @_@ [6/28/16, 5:05:59 PM] Zin Karyuu: Happilt! [6/28/16, 5:06:07 PM] Onna Stik: yay [6/28/16, 5:06:27 PM] Zin Karyuu: Bel - was Mutt, in this context, ever human? [6/28/16, 5:06:36 PM] Nick: Mostly what I'm stuck on is that original mutt was really really young when they were taken [6/28/16, 5:07:01 PM] Nick: So, they never really had any proper human ties [6/28/16, 5:07:08 PM] Zin Karyuu: Martin was 10 [6/28/16, 5:07:12 PM] Zin Karyuu: OK, uuuh [6/28/16, 5:07:33 PM] Zin Karyuu: I'll run through him as an example soo [6/28/16, 5:07:38 PM] Nick: Okay [6/28/16, 5:27:35 PM] Nick: Mutt was at most two or three years old, in the story. I'd be willing to move that by a couple years for this, but only a couple [6/28/16, 5:31:36 PM] Zin Karyuu: nod [6/28/16, 5:31:38 PM] Zin Karyuu: Ok! [6/28/16, 5:45:31 PM] Zin Karyuu: So - Martin was 10. He didn't really get older until right before he fled with the others - and he was treated very, very well. He was a gargoyle, a sentinel, watching from the walls and letting their Keeper know what was going on, the eyes and ears of a being he adored, but... who the young lady made of fire who would pause on her rounds to speak with him and occasionally sneak sweets with, she didn't agree. But he didn't tell. He didn't understand why their keeper pulled him from the wall and called the girl, why he was taller, why his body was shaped a bit differently. He certainly didn't understand why he was sent to crawl back to his post with broken fingers, struggling to sob but finding his eyes dry and unable to form even a single tear in the wake of his pain She stopped speaking to him, even when he turned toward her as she passed. It wasn't until he was healed that she stopped. Gripped his hands, looked them over, seeing his fingers as long and thin and strong as they used to be, that she spoke again. "...we're leaving. Please come with us. We're going under your gate. I know... I'll keep them from coming for you. I told them I would put your eyes out myself so you couldn't keep us from running. Please. I don't want you hurt again because of something I did." He didn't answer. It wasn't until he heard them creeping below his perch that he slipped down the side of the castle and dropped down among them - a beautiful woman all light and rainbows grabbed for him, a thin blade of something unfamiliar in her hands, but the pretty girl all ablaze pulled him to her, caught his hand, hurried her pace and pulled him along, whispering four words. "We're all going home." [6/28/16, 5:47:51 PM] Nick: Oooooh [6/28/16, 5:47:56 PM] Zin Karyuu: So... he didn't leave on his own. He met others who acted as the catalyst - and nearly went back after he found his way to what they called home, because the world around him was so unfamiliar. Alternatively, if one realizes they're bei g treated badly, they can try to run on their own... but from such a young age, it might be unlikely. Melkiah has a pair where one literally stole the other from the keeper as a 'fuck you' on their own way out [6/28/16, 5:47:58 PM] Zin Karyuu: :) [6/28/16, 5:49:25 PM] Nick: Thinking about it...mutt probably ended up with a different fae than the original one that stole them, since that's the closest to the story. Probably a rival or something. Idk [6/28/16, 5:49:47 PM] Nick: And again, there'd be that gratefulness for being noticed [6/28/16, 5:49:56 PM] Nick: So they probably wouldn't leave on their own [6/28/16, 5:50:14 PM] Zin Karyuu: nod [6/28/16, 5:50:21 PM] Zin Karyuu: So someone may pull them along [6/28/16, 5:50:37 PM] Nick: Yeah [6/28/16, 5:53:45 PM] Nick: Probably after they pull mica apart, if only because it'll be fun playing them slowly understanding how cruel and unnecessary that was [6/28/16, 5:53:55 PM] Nick: Very slowly [6/28/16, 6:00:06 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yesss [6/28/16, 6:01:01 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 6:01:22 PM] Onna Stik: I've relocated now, should I wait till you guys are done? [6/28/16, 6:01:39 PM] Zin Karyuu: Iiill be available at 5! [6/28/16, 6:02:14 PM] Onna Stik: It is five for me ;) [6/28/16, 6:02:25 PM] Onna Stik: But I get you. [6/28/16, 6:02:53 PM] Nick: It's six for me [6/28/16, 6:02:57 PM] Nick: Time zones are wild [6/28/16, 6:03:15 PM] Nick: Nick never actually knows what time zone he's in [6/28/16, 6:03:40 PM] Nick: I just spent half a week in Chicago and it took me two days to realize I was in a different time zone [6/28/16, 6:04:49 PM] Zin Karyuu: He he [6/28/16, 6:05:01 PM] Zin Karyuu: I mean i could try while stuff is loading buy [6/28/16, 6:05:05 PM] Zin Karyuu: But [6/28/16, 6:05:08 PM] Onna Stik: I know [6/28/16, 6:05:09 PM] Zin Karyuu: I'm gonna be good [6/28/16, 6:05:13 PM] Zin Karyuu: :3 [6/28/16, 7:10:18 PM] Nick: Image [6/28/16, 7:10:26 PM] Nick: Precious murderchild [6/28/16, 7:31:11 PM] Zin Karyuu: :3 [6/28/16, 7:31:41 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 7:31:58 PM] Onna Stik: Good times :) [6/28/16, 7:32:11 PM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu scurries off to car
Spoiler: skype discussion 5 [6/28/16, 8:05:30 PM] dwarf lover: HI ONNA SOMEONE LEFT HIS HOPTOP UNATTENDED [6/28/16, 8:05:36 PM] dwarf lover: IT IS ME [6/28/16, 8:05:40 PM] dwarf lover: I AM NOW TWO RABBITS [6/28/16, 8:05:42 PM] dwarf lover: FEAR ME [6/28/16, 8:05:45 PM] Onna Stik: ...huh? [6/28/16, 8:06:03 PM] Nick: It's Zin [6/28/16, 8:06:11 PM] dwarf lover: I WILL GET HIM TO CATCH UP LATER [6/28/16, 8:06:13 PM] Onna Stik: Oh! :D [6/28/16, 8:06:33 PM] dwarf lover: I NEED A KEYBOARD AND MY HOPTOP IS UPSTAIRS AND TAKES LIKE 10 MINUTES TO LOAD BECAUSE IT I GETTING OLD [6/28/16, 8:06:35 PM] dwarf lover: OK [6/28/16, 8:06:35 PM] dwarf lover: SO [6/28/16, 8:07:19 PM] Nick: Please stop caps [6/28/16, 8:07:21 PM] Nick: Is loud [6/28/16, 8:07:48 PM] dwarf lover: BEL!!!! OPTION FOR MUTT INCLUDES POSSIBLY GOING FERAL AND WANDERING OFF INTO THE HEDGES AND POSSIBLY LIVING WITH HOBS FOR AWHILE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT SUIT THE CHARACTER??? ALSO: POSSIBILITY OF MICA BEING A TWIN IN THIS INSTANCE, WITH ONE REMAINING MORTAL AND THE OTHER BEING TAKEN TO FAERIE, [6/28/16, 8:07:51 PM] dwarf lover: OH [6/28/16, 8:07:54 PM] dwarf lover: ok sorry yes [6/28/16, 8:08:08 PM] dwarf lover: quiet typing begins now [6/28/16, 8:08:12 PM] Nick: What is a hobs [6/28/16, 8:08:30 PM] dwarf lover: Hobgoblin, lesser denizen of Arcadia/Hedge/Faerieland [6/28/16, 8:08:54 PM] dwarf lover: Not quite as terrifying as a true fae because they don't literally warp reality but can most definitely be nasty. [6/28/16, 8:09:28 PM] dwarf lover: re: Mica being a Twin, thought was that could super maximize wtfery and complications because then you have the Faerie Mutt Met, the Fetch, and a possible Mortal in the mix. [6/28/16, 8:09:35 PM] Nick: I could see mutt going feral [6/28/16, 8:09:59 PM] Nick: Mica being a twin....?? Keep going [6/28/16, 8:10:01 PM] dwarf lover: but that is mostly me having ideas in the car and needing to infodump thoughts that can absolutely result in a hand on my nose and a "bunny no" [6/28/16, 8:10:16 PM] Nick: I'm confused rn [6/28/16, 8:10:28 PM] dwarf lover: Ok. Sorry. I'll slow down a bit. [6/28/16, 8:10:38 PM] Nick: Ok [6/28/16, 8:12:48 PM] dwarf lover: Twin idea is, in summary: Mica and NotMica. NotMica would likely be either the mortal who never went to Faerie or the Fetch that replaced Mica ( as they can have personality differences from their Changeling counterpart, and depending on the keeper may make things better or worse ). Thus you have a Changeling, that Mutt knows in some capacity and has likely done terrible things to... as well as a mortal and a fetch, who are there to be encountered and bring memories bubbling back up... along with confusion, because 'you don't look the way you should', among other things. [6/28/16, 8:13:20 PM] dwarf lover: ...Mica, NotMica, Third-Mica-Who-Is-Named-Something-Else. [6/28/16, 8:14:15 PM] Nick: Wait I am even more confused [6/28/16, 8:14:33 PM] Nick: Were both twins stolen? Is mica not actually related? What [6/28/16, 8:14:55 PM] dwarf lover: One twin is stolen, the other is not, was the thought. [6/28/16, 8:15:18 PM] Nick: Okay so there's the stolen twin, their fetch, and the mortal twin [6/28/16, 8:15:23 PM] Nick: That's as far as I got [6/28/16, 8:15:25 PM] dwarf lover: Yes nodnod [6/28/16, 8:16:03 PM] dwarf lover: Stolen Twin = the one Mutt would meet in Faerie. [6/28/16, 8:16:36 PM] Nick: Wait wait hold on [6/28/16, 8:16:44 PM] dwarf lover: uppy ears [6/28/16, 8:16:57 PM] Nick: In this case, mica and mutt are not each other's counterparts? [6/28/16, 8:17:13 PM] dwarf lover: Hold on, brain may have skipped a few stages [6/28/16, 8:17:18 PM] Nick: Yeah [6/28/16, 8:17:28 PM] dwarf lover: I think I missed a chunk back in original explanation on Mutt and Mica [6/28/16, 8:17:34 PM] dwarf lover: because my brain got full of delicious [6/28/16, 8:17:43 PM] dwarf lover: and some of it occasionally seeps out [6/28/16, 8:17:44 PM] Nick: The whole point is that mica replaced mutt [6/28/16, 8:17:51 PM] dwarf lover: aaah Ok [6/28/16, 8:17:59 PM] Nick: That's why mutt is so obsessed with him [6/28/16, 8:18:04 PM] Nick: Okay, that's why I was confused [6/28/16, 8:18:11 PM] dwarf lover: Ok!!! [6/28/16, 8:18:14 PM] dwarf lover: claps hands [6/28/16, 8:19:22 PM] dwarf lover: So, running off of my bookverse for a moment - Martin has a fetch. But the keeper idea may or may not remain in that canon. Thus... he walked into Faerie, and along the way... he split in two. One half left immediately, the other became the Martin his friends now know and love. [6/28/16, 8:19:48 PM] Nick: Huh [6/28/16, 8:20:12 PM] dwarf lover: It would be possible for the original keeper to do that on purpose, and then see what happens when you treat one better than the other - Thus one Twin becomes both Mica and Mutt. [6/28/16, 8:20:21 PM] Nick: Ohhh huh [6/28/16, 8:20:23 PM] dwarf lover: Alllternatively... Mutt may be the FETCH. [6/28/16, 8:20:31 PM] Nick: OH? [6/28/16, 8:20:58 PM] dwarf lover: Which would be verrrry confusing for everyone and likely cause one hell of a stir among the changelings, especially if they realize what they dd to Mica [6/28/16, 8:21:11 PM] Nick: I like this idea [6/28/16, 8:21:48 PM] Nick: Btw mutt does have two siblings from when they were mortal. Older sister arie and younger brother Ethan [6/28/16, 8:21:52 PM] dwarf lover: there's a lot of debate about what do with a fetch - and then there's the fact that you can play along with 'are you sure he's the one who is real and not me', and possibly have it in the end that they were literally ripped in two and are both as much human as they are fetch [6/28/16, 8:21:54 PM] dwarf lover: Ok [6/28/16, 8:22:18 PM] Nick: I like that idea a lot [6/28/16, 8:22:27 PM] dwarf lover: :D [6/28/16, 8:23:17 PM] Nick: That makes it like 4 times as fucked up [6/28/16, 8:23:19 PM] Nick: I love it [6/28/16, 8:23:21 PM] dwarf lover: >:3c [6/28/16, 8:25:00 PM] dwarf lover: ok I need to drag rabbit out of his room so we can get stuff for dinner, switching back to the phone! [6/28/16, 8:25:13 PM] Nick: Okay! [6/28/16, 8:29:36 PM] Nick: Mica won't die, at least not from what mutt does to him [6/28/16, 8:30:12 PM] Nick: It's possible he'll become something like nul [6/28/16, 8:30:45 PM] Nick: So that should be interesting [6/28/16, 8:35:09 PM] Zin Karyuu: Very, very interesting [6/28/16, 8:35:39 PM] Zin Karyuu: Do you want to keep Arie and Ethan as extant in this case as well? [6/28/16, 8:47:20 PM] Nick: Extant? [6/28/16, 8:50:02 PM] Zin Karyuu: Have them around in the game /nod [6/28/16, 8:50:52 PM] Nick: Yeah, that's probably a good idea [6/28/16, 8:51:12 PM] Zin Karyuu: Ok [6/28/16, 8:51:30 PM] Nick: Arie hated mica from the moment he showed up, because he wasn't her sibling [6/28/16, 8:51:43 PM] Nick: Ethan adores mica because mica is his older brother [6/28/16, 8:51:55 PM] Zin Karyuu: nod [6/28/16, 8:51:58 PM] Nick: Their reaction to mutt will be fun [6/28/16, 8:57:16 PM] Zin Karyuu: So - Arie. Ethan. Twin. Fetch. Mica. Mutt. [6/28/16, 8:57:33 PM] Zin Karyuu: Or do we have one fetch too many? [6/28/16, 8:58:26 PM] Nick: I thought we got rid of the twin, and mutt and mica are both fetch and human [6/28/16, 8:58:48 PM] Zin Karyuu: I wasn't sure. Hence the double check. [6/28/16, 8:58:58 PM] Nick: Of course [6/28/16, 9:00:38 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 9:00:43 PM] Nick: I'm happy to be here [6/28/16, 9:05:36 PM] Zin Karyuu: :D [6/28/16, 9:21:42 PM] Nick: We still need to figure out mutt's watchacallit [6/28/16, 9:21:46 PM] Nick: Seeming? [6/28/16, 9:24:17 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yes. [6/28/16, 9:24:22 PM] Zin Karyuu: And Mica's. [6/28/16, 9:24:35 PM] Nick: Right [6/28/16, 9:25:33 PM] Zin Karyuu: or Nui/Nul's, considering. [6/28/16, 9:25:42 PM] Nick: Nui? [6/28/16, 9:25:44 PM] Zin Karyuu: couldn't parse if it was an I or an L [6/28/16, 9:25:50 PM] Nick: L [6/28/16, 9:25:53 PM] Zin Karyuu: Mica -> Not-Mica [6/28/16, 9:25:55 PM] Zin Karyuu: *nod* [6/28/16, 9:25:57 PM] Zin Karyuu: Nul [6/28/16, 9:27:33 PM] Nick: Would mica's and nul's be different or the same? [6/28/16, 9:30:20 PM] Nick: Zin [6/28/16, 9:30:38 PM] Zin Karyuu: Arguably, could be different, or Nul could gain a different kith on top of Mica's [6/28/16, 9:30:56 PM] Nick: Ooh [6/28/16, 9:31:12 PM] Zin Karyuu: :3c [6/28/16, 9:33:01 PM] Nick: I think it would be more interesting with the latter [6/28/16, 9:33:15 PM] Zin Karyuu: *thumbs up* [6/28/16, 9:33:35 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 9:34:46 PM] Nick: So does mica gain the seeming after he's stolen back to fairyland? Because he does have a human life for a while [6/28/16, 9:34:54 PM] Nick: How would this work [6/28/16, 9:35:29 PM] Onna Stik: Basically it accounts for how Faerie has changed you, as I understand it. [6/28/16, 9:35:34 PM] Nick: Okay [6/28/16, 9:35:42 PM] Nick: So he'd have it all along, then [6/28/16, 9:40:07 PM] Nick: Hmmmm [6/28/16, 9:40:37 PM] Nick: Maybe darkling for mica? Because deception [6/28/16, 9:40:43 PM] Nick: Even if he doesn't know it [6/28/16, 9:41:26 PM] Nick: And wizened for mutt? Idk [6/28/16, 9:41:57 PM] Onna Stik: Maybe think about their durances? What they were taken for? [6/28/16, 9:42:16 PM] Nick: Shit train one sec [6/28/16, 9:42:30 PM] Zin Karyuu: rabbit is afk in angry rabbit mode yelling at melkiah plz continue [6/28/16, 9:45:23 PM] Nick: Okay [6/28/16, 9:45:32 PM] Nick: Train is unboarding [6/28/16, 9:45:41 PM] Nick: Be back when on next train [6/28/16, 9:53:47 PM] Zin Karyuu: Mica went back as a changeling, and didn't realize he wasn't - he likely looked the same in both mask and mein at that point - and it's when he returns that his body takes the rest of the changes and his seeming and kith come full to the fore? [6/28/16, 9:56:24 PM] Nick: Yeah, that makes sense [6/28/16, 9:59:18 PM] Nick: I still think deception makes sense - maybe he was also deceiving himself? [6/28/16, 9:59:30 PM] Zin Karyuu: *nod* [6/28/16, 9:59:46 PM] Zin Karyuu: "monsters don't exist" [6/28/16, 9:59:49 PM] Nick: Yes [6/28/16, 10:01:11 PM] Nick: And mutt lost a lot of things, becoming a changeling [6/28/16, 10:01:23 PM] Nick: And they're definitely bitter about this [6/28/16, 10:01:25 PM] Zin Karyuu: *nod* [6/28/16, 10:01:59 PM] Onna Stik: This is gonna be fun, because Corrie is just CRAZY joyful. [6/28/16, 10:02:08 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 10:02:30 PM] Nick: Anyway that's why I said wizened [6/28/16, 10:03:08 PM] Zin Karyuu: :D [6/28/16, 10:03:41 PM] Nick: So it works? [6/28/16, 10:04:18 PM] Zin Karyuu: yes [6/28/16, 10:04:26 PM] Nick: Okay, good [6/28/16, 10:06:45 PM] Nick: Dunno about kiths tho [6/28/16, 10:07:01 PM] Onna Stik: Go and look at some and see what you like? [6/28/16, 10:07:09 PM] Zin Karyuu: *nod* [6/28/16, 10:07:17 PM] Zin Karyuu: and if you see something on another list? [6/28/16, 10:07:21 PM] Zin Karyuu: >:3c we can make it work [6/28/16, 10:07:41 PM] Zin Karyuu: I am very much down with ripping things to pieces and rebuilding them if it suits the narrative [6/28/16, 10:08:51 PM] Onna Stik: Does that mean Corrie doesn't have to have the right Threshold for the Keys I want to give her? [6/28/16, 10:09:39 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yes, though you can gain other keys through xp trade, etc. [6/28/16, 10:09:50 PM] Onna Stik: Good point also. [6/28/16, 10:10:11 PM] Zin Karyuu: Plot + Fun > Hard Rules [6/28/16, 10:10:32 PM] Onna Stik: (Was thinking Pyre-Flame because duh, and Phantasmal because heat-shimmer and mirages really fit the aesthetic I'm going for.) [6/28/16, 10:11:02 PM] Zin Karyuu: oooh yes :D [6/28/16, 10:19:00 PM] Nick: Okay I have half an hour before the next train [6/28/16, 10:19:03 PM] Nick: Time for kiths [6/28/16, 10:19:33 PM] Zin Karyuu: :D [6/28/16, 10:23:55 PM] Nick: Maybe chirurgeon for mutt? [6/28/16, 10:24:00 PM] Nick: Goes with the torture [6/28/16, 10:24:10 PM] Zin Karyuu: ooooh [6/28/16, 10:25:41 PM] Nick: I think nul gets mirrorskin [6/28/16, 10:25:48 PM] Nick: Having trouble with mica [6/28/16, 10:26:03 PM] Zin Karyuu: There are some that are in fairest that can just be human, arguably? [6/28/16, 10:26:05 PM] Nick: But I don't think i can get any closer to nul than mirrorskin [6/28/16, 10:26:13 PM] Zin Karyuu: hehe [6/28/16, 10:27:10 PM] Nick: Huh [6/28/16, 10:28:35 PM] Nick: Muse? It's the closest of the fairest I think [6/28/16, 10:29:26 PM] Nick: Fuck, idk [6/28/16, 10:29:49 PM] Zin Karyuu: OOOH [6/28/16, 10:29:52 PM] Zin Karyuu: o_o [6/28/16, 10:30:01 PM] Nick: That's a loud reaction [6/28/16, 10:30:18 PM] Nick: You think? [6/28/16, 10:30:55 PM] Zin Karyuu: *rubs hands in interest* [6/28/16, 10:30:57 PM] Zin Karyuu: give me a mo' [6/28/16, 10:31:05 PM] Nick: Nick nodnod [6/28/16, 10:31:26 PM] Zin Karyuu: arrrguably, Mannikin from the Elementals may work as well [6/28/16, 10:31:49 PM] Nick: How so? [6/28/16, 10:31:51 PM] Zin Karyuu: But yes, Muse could be a very interesting one [6/28/16, 10:32:00 PM] Zin Karyuu: Human in appearance was what I was referring to [6/28/16, 10:32:23 PM] Nick: I was thinking, it's passive, and it would explain why no one got suspicious (except arie, and she's just. Arie) [6/28/16, 10:33:25 PM] Nick: Does that make sense? [6/28/16, 10:34:05 PM] Zin Karyuu: ooh, yes. [6/28/16, 10:34:08 PM] Zin Karyuu: Absolutely makes sense. [6/28/16, 10:34:14 PM] Nick: : D [6/28/16, 10:34:26 PM] Nick: I figured it out : D [6/28/16, 10:34:39 PM] Zin Karyuu: ( sorry for slow replies, by the by, I'm playing a game a little and talking to Melkiah ) [6/28/16, 10:34:43 PM] Nick: Sokay [6/28/16, 10:34:53 PM] Nick: How is melkiah? [6/28/16, 10:35:54 PM] Zin Karyuu: he's a BUTT [6/28/16, 10:35:57 PM] Zin Karyuu: >:c [6/28/16, 10:36:02 PM] Nick: I see [6/28/16, 10:36:28 PM] Zin Karyuu: But we're going back to neutral and talking about a movie. I'm just grumpy about something from earlier. [6/28/16, 10:36:35 PM] Nick: Yeah [6/28/16, 10:36:40 PM] Nick: That's good [6/28/16, 10:38:35 PM] Zin Karyuu: We've been together a long time, so we've learned the ins and outs of our own grumpy habits :p [6/28/16, 10:38:57 PM] Nick: Of course [6/28/16, 10:40:27 PM] Zin Karyuu: :) [6/28/16, 10:42:34 PM] Nick: So, everything I have so far is okay? [6/28/16, 10:48:30 PM] Zin Karyuu: yes [6/28/16, 10:49:44 PM] Nick: Okay, good [6/28/16, 10:49:53 PM] Nick: In that case, good night [6/28/16, 10:50:00 PM] Onna Stik: night o/ [6/28/16, 10:50:28 PM] Zin Karyuu: night! :3 Spoiler: skype discussion 6 [6/28/16, 11:54:31 PM] Onna Stik: augh, so much eyerolling at derangement rules [6/28/16, 11:55:48 PM] Zin Karyuu: I KNOW, RIGHT? [6/28/16, 11:55:52 PM] Zin Karyuu: ugggh [6/28/16, 11:56:14 PM] Onna Stik: "it's always for a reason, like maybe they did something bad!" [6/28/16, 11:57:54 PM] Zin Karyuu: Yeah. [6/28/16, 11:58:03 PM] Zin Karyuu: "GOSH, IF YOU'RE MENTALLY ILL, YOU MUST BE EVIL" [6/28/16, 11:58:05 PM] Zin Karyuu: "......" [6/28/16, 11:58:09 PM] Zin Karyuu: *throws out window* [6/28/16, 11:58:15 PM] Onna Stik: Also a tendency to talk to yourself is Schizophrenia Lite, apparently. [6/28/16, 11:58:18 PM] Zin Karyuu: ye [6/29/16, 12:11:29 AM] Onna Stik: ...ironically, looking through vices, the "no romance plz" character is probably going to wind up with Lust. [6/29/16, 12:12:08 AM] Zin Karyuu: haha. [6/29/16, 12:30:06 AM] dwarf lover: pokes head in [6/29/16, 12:30:13 AM] Onna Stik: o/ [6/29/16, 12:30:44 AM] dwarf lover: they explained in the NEXT edition of the books that the whole 'being bad =crazy' thing was a Victorian belief, that insanity derived from a low/improper morality/soul [6/29/16, 12:30:50 AM] dwarf lover: which is great for THAT kind of rp [6/29/16, 12:31:02 AM] dwarf lover: but absolute bollocks for the modern horror setting they actually designed [6/29/16, 12:31:04 AM] dwarf lover: >.> [6/29/16, 12:31:08 AM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu pulls rabbit over and pets his ears while he talks [6/29/16, 12:31:10 AM] dwarf lover: gg on design guys [6/29/16, 12:31:14 AM] Zin Karyuu: yep [6/29/16, 12:31:45 AM] Onna Stik: I'm into a Victorian horror browser game and /they/ don't do that either. >_< [6/29/16, 12:32:13 AM] Zin Karyuu: ooh? [6/29/16, 12:32:27 AM] Onna Stik: (Really Fallen London is just super gr8 in general and you should totally try it) [6/29/16, 12:32:48 AM] dwarf lover: its aswsome [6/29/16, 12:33:01 AM] dwarf lover: and that's because they knew what good game design is! [6/29/16, 12:33:12 AM] Onna Stik: (Victorian London has been stolen by bats and everything else makes approximately that amount of sense as well) [6/29/16, 12:33:21 AM] dwarf lover: I mean the actual samurai were utter assholes who killed defensless peasants on a wim [6/29/16, 12:33:27 AM] dwarf lover: whim* [6/29/16, 12:33:57 AM] dwarf lover: BUT that's not the shit we want to experience when someone says "want to play a dnd game where everyone is samurai with me guys?!" [6/29/16, 12:34:05 AM] Onna Stik: yep [6/29/16, 12:34:29 AM] dwarf lover: I mean I think their problem was knowing that they needed some benefit to not having a low morality [6/29/16, 12:34:34 AM] dwarf lover: and some penalty to having one [6/29/16, 12:34:45 AM] dwarf lover: but the one they choose was very.... unhinged? [6/29/16, 12:34:50 AM] dwarf lover: like it doenst' fit in well [6/29/16, 12:35:06 AM] dwarf lover: one of my thoughts was to have your vice/virtue somehow reflect it [6/29/16, 12:35:33 AM] dwarf lover: lke maybe to commit a vice you had to succed a morality roll, or you would feel too guilty to do it [6/29/16, 12:35:44 AM] dwarf lover: with vitures/vices being the one 'freebie' you go [6/29/16, 12:35:46 AM] dwarf lover: got [6/29/16, 12:36:24 AM] Onna Stik: Possible, but I'd think that would make higher moralities more restrictive and so less desirable. [6/29/16, 12:36:37 AM] dwarf lover: yeah [6/29/16, 12:36:41 AM] Onna Stik: Also no one likes being told "No, your character wouldn't do that". [6/29/16, 12:36:43 AM] dwarf lover: that was a problem [6/29/16, 12:37:02 AM] dwarf lover: I have no clue how to ACTUALLY make morality a worthwhile point expenditure
Spoiler: skype discussion 7 [6/29/16, 12:37:26 AM] dwarf lover: well.. yeah there is ONE game idea i have [6/29/16, 12:37:34 AM] dwarf lover: where your morality and power level are one trait inversed [6/29/16, 12:38:07 AM] Zin Karyuu: ooh yes fallen london <3 [6/29/16, 12:38:39 AM] dwarf lover: so... if you're willing to burn a school to the ground, (morality 1) your power level is throught the roof (power 10) and vice versa. That's the only system i have imagined or seen that makes morality worthwhile [6/29/16, 12:38:41 AM] Zin Karyuu: oh, bunny is talking about Masks! [6/29/16, 12:38:43 AM] dwarf lover: yep [6/29/16, 12:39:01 AM] dwarf lover: because while you CAN go full psycho right away [6/29/16, 12:39:09 AM] dwarf lover: and be night-unstoapable [6/29/16, 12:39:27 AM] Onna Stik: That's a bit more on the Grimdark side than I like, myself. [6/29/16, 12:39:33 AM] dwarf lover: yep [6/29/16, 12:39:35 AM] dwarf lover: well [6/29/16, 12:39:38 AM] dwarf lover: its modified giest game [6/29/16, 12:39:48 AM] dwarf lover: where your giest is ACTIVLY trying to posses you [6/29/16, 12:39:55 AM] dwarf lover: and the more you give into it, the stronger it is [6/29/16, 12:39:59 AM] dwarf lover: and the more it can do [6/29/16, 12:39:59 AM] Onna Stik: Aaaah. [6/29/16, 12:40:12 AM] dwarf lover: and the more you deny it, the weaker its grasp over you and reality gets [6/29/16, 12:40:53 AM] Onna Stik: So you want to avoid getting /so/ horrible and powerful that you've just given in. [6/29/16, 12:40:58 AM] dwarf lover: yeah [6/29/16, 12:41:15 AM] dwarf lover: because the more possessed you are, the easier it is for it to assume MORE control [6/29/16, 12:41:19 AM] dwarf lover: and vice versa [6/29/16, 12:41:36 AM] dwarf lover: so you want to stay on the knife's edge of being strong enough to deal with the baddies [6/29/16, 12:41:44 AM] dwarf lover: and in control enough to not become one [6/29/16, 12:42:03 AM] Onna Stik: Okay, that sounds more appealing then. [6/29/16, 12:42:11 AM] dwarf lover: as it constantly chatter at the back of your mind to kill, kill, kill kill kill kill killkillkilllkilll [6/29/16, 12:42:33 AM] dwarf lover: :3 it shall hopefully be quite... entertaining. [6/29/16, 12:43:31 AM] Zin Karyuu: *pets the bunny* [6/29/16, 12:43:41 AM] Zin Karyuu: See, he has the best brains [6/29/16, 12:43:48 AM] dwarf lover: O.o [6/29/16, 12:43:48 AM] Zin Karyuu: Is a very good match these bunnies [6/29/16, 12:43:50 AM] Onna Stik: Apparently! [6/29/16, 12:44:00 AM] dwarf lover: i have a good idea once in a decade [6/29/16, 12:44:09 AM] dwarf lover: and you act like I'm albert einstien [6/29/16, 12:44:11 AM] Zin Karyuu: You are way too harsh on yourself [6/29/16, 12:44:20 AM] dwarf lover: EVERY ARTIST SHOULD BE [6/29/16, 12:44:24 AM] Zin Karyuu: Also you have had more than one good idea in the last decade [6/29/16, 12:44:28 AM] Zin Karyuu: I'VE BEEN HERE TO SEE THEM [6/29/16, 12:44:30 AM] Zin Karyuu: *cackle* [6/29/16, 12:45:05 AM] dwarf lover: so Onna, you're going to play a Sin-eater? [6/29/16, 12:45:31 AM] Onna Stik: Yes. She died of heatstroke and now she has no brakes. [6/29/16, 12:46:40 AM] Onna Stik: And she calls the geist "sunshine" because I'm funny dammit [6/29/16, 12:48:36 AM] Zin Karyuu: :3 [6/29/16, 12:48:46 AM] dwarf lover: no brakes? [6/29/16, 12:48:50 AM] dwarf lover: it IS funny [6/29/16, 12:49:10 AM] dwarf lover: Zin also had a sin-eater that made fun of her giest constatnly [6/29/16, 12:49:51 AM] Onna Stik: Basically she's in that euphoric "oh god I'm not dead NOTHING CAN HURT ME" frame of mind. [6/29/16, 12:50:03 AM] dwarf lover: oh... [6/29/16, 12:50:10 AM] Onna Stik: We'll see how long that lasts, mind you. [6/29/16, 12:50:14 AM] dwarf lover: >.> i should point out that statisticall this is [6/29/16, 12:50:15 AM] dwarf lover: yeah... [6/29/16, 12:50:26 AM] dwarf lover: most sin-eaters realize quickly that they CAN die again [6/29/16, 12:50:30 AM] dwarf lover: and it still aint fun [6/29/16, 12:52:36 AM] Zin Karyuu: Oh! [6/29/16, 12:52:37 AM] Zin Karyuu: Yes [6/29/16, 12:52:39 AM] Zin Karyuu: Wendi! [6/29/16, 12:52:42 AM] Zin Karyuu: :3c [6/29/16, 12:52:43 AM] dwarf lover: yep [6/29/16, 12:52:46 AM] dwarf lover: the best lesbians [6/29/16, 12:52:53 AM] Zin Karyuu: The best lesbians <3 [6/29/16, 12:53:13 AM] Onna Stik: huh? [6/29/16, 12:53:18 AM] Zin Karyuu: Lydia had essentially a Wendigo as her Geist [6/29/16, 12:53:26 AM] Zin Karyuu: and her giiiirlfriend *chinhands at Melkiah* [6/29/16, 12:53:50 AM] Onna Stik: Sounds interesting. [6/29/16, 12:54:41 AM] dwarf lover: her gf Keli had a racecar driver ghost, actually this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireball_Roberts, thought she didn't know it [6/29/16, 12:55:04 AM] dwarf lover: who was constantly on fire [6/29/16, 12:55:31 AM] dwarf lover: also Lydia kept calling her giest 'Wendi' much to it's disatisfaction [6/29/16, 1:17:36 AM] dwarf lover: [6/30/16, 12:06:23 AM] Zin Karyuu: Melkiah's character is making me cackle with glee. Also with dead dove do not eat shipping potential. [6/30/16, 12:06:36 AM] Onna Stik: ohhh dear [6/30/16, 12:06:40 AM] Zin Karyuu: - [6/30/16, 12:08:46 AM] Zin Karyuu: "I love, I hate, I desire, I consume. I must consume or be consumed myself. I burn so hot none will have me, yet I yearn to be touched." [6/30/16, 12:09:46 AM] Zin Karyuu: Typing as for him as he drives [6/30/16, 12:10:00 AM] Onna Stik: So what is he? [6/30/16, 12:10:10 AM] Zin Karyuu: Elemental, Fire! [6/30/16, 12:10:16 AM] Onna Stik: D: [6/30/16, 12:10:20 AM] Onna Stik: I mean :D [6/30/16, 12:10:35 AM] Zin Karyuu: Or... a fairest flamesiren [6/30/16, 12:11:31 AM] Zin Karyuu: We're discussing specifics at the moment. She's kinda scary. ( very ) [6/30/16, 12:12:12 AM] Zin Karyuu: "She IS the psycho girlfriend" [6/30/16, 12:12:33 AM] Zin Karyuu: He was texting me while at work and I just was all ".....c...continue." [6/30/16, 12:12:39 AM] Onna Stik: Sunshine should like her :3c [6/30/16, 12:12:53 AM] Zin Karyuu: cackles [6/30/16, 12:13:45 AM] Nick: I like her [6/30/16, 12:13:51 AM] Nick: This is going to be fun [6/30/16, 12:14:36 AM] Zin Karyuu: She's going to be summer court - feeds off anger, sounds like a troll, oh man. [6/30/16, 12:14:43 AM] Zin Karyuu: It's going to be DELIGHTFUL [6/30/16, 12:15:00 AM] Zin Karyuu: Here is the quote that made me perk up and go CONTINUE [6/30/16, 12:15:11 AM] Zin Karyuu: "I love you, I want you. I desire you like a flame wants for fuel, I need you like oxygen. I yearn for you, I will BURN for you. Be mine, body and mind, let me be yours, until we're both reduced to ashes. I'll be yours, and you'll become mine, no matter how much it hurts us to touch." [6/30/16, 12:15:31 AM] Nick: Oh man [6/30/16, 12:15:36 AM] Onna Stik: fun [6/30/16, 12:15:36 AM] Zin Karyuu: keening noise [6/30/16, 12:15:45 AM] Nick: I love it [6/30/16, 12:17:45 AM] Zin Karyuu: It's so awful. I love it. I love everyone in this bar. [6/30/16, 12:17:55 AM] Nick: < 3 [6/30/16, 12:28:08 AM] Nick: So now that I've got seemings and kiths, what do I need to do? [6/30/16, 12:30:39 AM] Zin Karyuu: We can do stats? [6/30/16, 12:30:49 AM] Nick: Okay! [6/30/16, 12:30:56 AM] Zin Karyuu: Oh, uh. We may need to hold off on official start a bit. As. Uh. [6/30/16, 12:31:16 AM] Nick: It's fine [6/30/16, 12:31:19 AM] Zin Karyuu: Melkiah and I are going to be looking officially for an apartment and moving by august 24th at the latest? [6/30/16, 12:31:31 AM] Zin Karyuu: So. I may be flustered and anxious on and off. [6/30/16, 12:31:46 AM] Nick: That's great! [6/30/16, 12:31:57 AM] Nick: Don't worry about it, real life takes precedence [6/30/16, 1:01:47 AM] Zin Karyuu: nodnod [6/30/16, 1:02:04 AM] Zin Karyuu: But yeah, possibly attributes and stuff [6/30/16, 1:02:29 AM] Nick: Okay [6/30/16, 1:26:39 AM] Nick: Image [6/30/16, 1:27:05 AM] Nick: Pointy crazy murderchild [6/30/16, 1:27:15 AM] Nick: I should also draw mica/nul [6/30/16, 1:27:25 AM] Zin Karyuu: :D [6/30/16, 1:28:11 AM] Nick: : D [6/30/16, 1:28:38 AM] Nick: I'm very very excited [6/30/16, 1:30:01 AM] Nick: Muse also makes sure that mica is still set apart from everyone else, except in this version it's more of a pedestal and less of an outcast [6/30/16, 1:30:25 AM] Zin Karyuu: I have basicly been doing an excited bunny dance fkr the last 48 hours [6/30/16, 1:30:41 AM] Nick: : D [6/30/16, 1:33:04 AM] Zin Karyuu: Melkiah will be able to discuss statting characters tomorrow while I do overtime! [6/30/16, 1:33:28 AM] Nick: Okay! Spoiler: skype discussion 8 [6/30/16, 2:06:16 AM] dwarf lover: So, Nick I don't know what time it is for you right now [6/30/16, 2:06:44 AM] Nick: It's 2 am but I slept for like 13 hours so I'm awake [6/30/16, 2:06:58 AM] dwarf lover: but I should be online in roughly... 12+1+4=17 hours [6/30/16, 2:07:04 AM] Nick: Okay [6/30/16, 2:07:10 AM] dwarf lover: so.. what... 7pm your time? [6/30/16, 2:07:17 AM] dwarf lover: which will be... 4pm our time [6/30/16, 2:07:22 AM] Nick: Yes [6/30/16, 2:07:25 AM] dwarf lover: grand [6/30/16, 2:07:32 AM] dwarf lover: we both know basic math! [6/30/16, 2:07:32 AM] Nick: Sounds good to me [6/30/16, 2:07:58 AM] dwarf lover: I'll talk to you then (sir and/or ma'am) [6/30/16, 2:08:06 AM] Nick: Sir [6/30/16, 2:08:10 AM] Nick: Thank you for asking [6/30/16, 2:08:34 AM] dwarf lover: you're quite welcome, wasn't sure so I thought it more polite to do so [6/30/16, 2:08:42 AM] Nick: Nick nodnod [6/30/16, 2:09:02 AM] Nick: Thank you for letting me know when you'll be around [6/30/16, 2:09:04 AM] Nick: Good night [6/30/16, 2:09:11 AM] dwarf lover: yeah, no woiries [6/30/16, 2:09:13 AM] dwarf lover: goodnigh [6/30/16, 3:29:44 AM] Nick: Image [6/30/16, 3:30:06 AM] Nick: Nul. Kinda. Not quite. Haven't completely figured him out yet [6/30/16, 3:33:09 AM] Nick: Nick added Lady Kianna to this conversation [6/30/16, 3:33:32 AM] Nick: Welcome! [6/30/16, 3:33:50 AM] Onna Stik: o/ [6/30/16, 3:35:13 AM] Lady Kianna: o/ [6/30/16, 3:35:33 AM] Nick: o/ ?? [6/30/16, 3:35:38 AM] Lady Kianna: its a wave. [6/30/16, 3:35:44 AM] Nick: Oh! [6/30/16, 3:35:45 AM] Lady Kianna: head and arm [6/30/16, 3:36:43 AM] Lady Kianna: <_< I still gotta read through the core rulebook that Zin linked me. low spoons on work nights. [6/30/16, 3:37:57 AM] Lady Kianna: What is the tl:dr of plan so far? [6/30/16, 3:38:10 AM] Nick: I....don't know? [6/30/16, 3:38:16 AM] Lady Kianna: whelp. [6/30/16, 3:38:30 AM] Nick: I somehow ended up with two characters I think. This wasn't supposed to happen but it did [6/30/16, 3:38:42 AM] Nick: We've mostly been doing character creation so far [6/30/16, 3:38:58 AM] Nick: Image [6/30/16, 3:39:03 AM] Nick: ^thats my pointy murderchild [6/30/16, 3:39:37 AM] Lady Kianna: One character that comes to mind would be a necromancer? That's already an oc. But she's never without her twin so I might end up with two as well. [6/30/16, 3:39:54 AM] Nick: Haha that's kinda what happened to me [6/30/16, 3:40:33 AM] Nick: Mutt, pictured above, is an oc in my original changeling story. [6/30/16, 3:41:00 AM] Nick: They have a sort of revenge thing against mica, the guy who replaced them when they were stolen [6/30/16, 3:41:20 AM] Lady Kianna: You've got all 3 then? [6/30/16, 3:41:35 AM] Nick: I wanted to play mutt and have mica be a part of their backstory, but somehow I ended up with both [6/30/16, 3:41:39 AM] Nick: 3? [6/30/16, 3:42:05 AM] Lady Kianna: I remember you posting 3 names in the forum. [6/30/16, 3:42:15 AM] Lady Kianna: So I assumed you had 3 characters. [6/30/16, 3:42:15 AM] Nick: Oh! Yeah [6/30/16, 3:43:07 AM] Nick: That's because mutt stole mica's name (in the story, at least. Idk what happens exactly here) and what was left became Nul [6/30/16, 3:43:32 AM] Lady Kianna: So similar in concept to a heartless/nothing (Kingdom Hearts) [6/30/16, 3:43:34 AM] Nick: So, technically mica is dead [6/30/16, 3:43:37 AM] Nick: What [6/30/16, 3:43:44 AM] Nick: I don't know about kingdom hearts [6/30/16, 3:45:33 AM] Lady Kianna: Kingdom Hearts. When your heart is stolen, your body becomes a Heartless. Black shadow grimdark kinda mob If your soul/will is strong(special) enough, it becomes a Nothing. (mobs in the second game. dunno how to describe them other than... tinfoil chess pieces I guess? But the Nothing NPCs are like ghosts of who they used to be? [6/30/16, 3:45:52 AM] Nick: Maybe??? [6/30/16, 3:46:15 AM] Lady Kianna: shrugs [6/30/16, 3:47:29 AM] Nick: But anyway we decided that nul would get a kith on top of what mica had, so that's why I listed all three [6/30/16, 3:48:01 AM] Lady Kianna: Ah. What's a kith? [6/30/16, 3:48:35 AM] Nick: A subtype? I don't really know, all I know is what's been explained to me [6/30/16, 3:48:43 AM] Lady Kianna: okee. [6/30/16, 3:49:06 AM] Nick: Anyway idk I think it's specifically a changeling thing [6/30/16, 3:49:18 AM] Nick: Or I might just be talking out of my ass cause I'm tired [6/30/16, 3:49:19 AM] Onna Stik: It's basically "what kind" [6/30/16, 3:49:34 AM] Onna Stik: it's subtypes [6/30/16, 3:49:48 AM] Nick: Oh, good, I wasn't wrong
Spoiler: skype discussion 9 [6/30/16, 3:50:17 AM] Onna Stik: Anyway, tell us about the necromancer? We could see how they'd fit. [6/30/16, 3:51:20 AM] Lady Kianna: Well, Mischa's a fantroll originally. So she'd probably just meld in to fit. [6/30/16, 3:52:12 AM] Nick: ....carmin? I think I saw them in an rp thread [6/30/16, 3:52:14 AM] Lady Kianna: Yes. [6/30/16, 3:52:26 AM] Nick: Nick nodnod okay continue [6/30/16, 3:56:48 AM] Lady Kianna: TL:DR: she's essentially a mini lil gamzee gurl. with a side of badass karkat. originally her and kainze(her twin) were some gamkar offspring. sassy snarky lil shit. she'll kick your ass for talking shit or looking at her the wrong way. very protective of her brother/family. [6/30/16, 3:57:38 AM] Lady Kianna: Dunno how necromancy would work in WoD it's been ages since I played WoD and even then it was only sparcely my tabletop group would do it. We had like 5 campaigns. [6/30/16, 3:58:00 AM] Nick: Sounds like there's room for a lot of conflict with "knives are the answer to all my problems" mutt [6/30/16, 3:58:16 AM] Lady Kianna: She'd agree with that actually. [6/30/16, 3:58:24 AM] Nick: Huh, okay [6/30/16, 3:58:41 AM] Lady Kianna: Problem? Stab it? Can't stab it? Bash it! [6/30/16, 3:58:45 AM] Onna Stik: Poor Corrie, trying to ride herd on all these violent jerks ;P [6/30/16, 3:59:17 AM] Lady Kianna: She'd rather manipulate than be directly violent. but yknow how sometimes push comes to shove... and next thing you know someone's lost an eye. [6/30/16, 3:59:28 AM] Lady Kianna: then its a sport! [6/30/16, 3:59:35 AM] Nick: Heh [6/30/16, 3:59:56 AM] Nick: I don't really think she'll get along with mutt though [6/30/16, 4:00:40 AM] Lady Kianna: Hmm. Was probably heavily into the occult early on. necronomicon / wicca / blood magic / crystal stuff etc [6/30/16, 4:01:08 AM] Lady Kianna: Oh! Are we doing mortal prelude or is that undecided?? [6/30/16, 4:02:34 AM] Onna Stik: Basically it's a case-by-case thing, if you want to do one Zin will run you through it. [6/30/16, 4:03:20 AM] Lady Kianna: Depending on when they're online that might have to wait until Friday. [6/30/16, 4:04:16 AM] Nick: Hey onna is corrie short for something? [6/30/16, 4:04:40 AM] Onna Stik: Cornelia, I believe. [6/30/16, 4:04:56 AM] Lady Kianna: "Welcome to Cornelia" [6/30/16, 4:05:03 AM] Onna Stik: ? [6/30/16, 4:05:15 AM] Lady Kianna: Original Final Fantasy. Cornelia is the name of the first town. [6/30/16, 4:05:26 AM] Lady Kianna: <-- is a huge nerrrrrd [6/30/16, 4:05:29 AM] Onna Stik: Oh! [6/30/16, 4:05:34 AM] Onna Stik: did not know that. [6/30/16, 4:05:47 AM] Lady Kianna: IIRC it's also the name of the first planet in StarFox [6/30/16, 4:06:42 AM] Nick: We're all nerds here [6/30/16, 4:06:48 AM] Nick: Just with different areas [6/30/16, 4:06:53 AM] Lady Kianna: nodnods [6/30/16, 4:07:57 AM] Nick: Anyway mischa seems cool and I'm glad you're here [6/30/16, 4:07:58 AM] Lady Kianna: ... i just realized I didnt have Zin in skype because i typoed the username. >_> [6/30/16, 4:08:03 AM] Nick: Omg [6/30/16, 4:08:20 AM] Nick: That's awful [6/30/16, 4:08:50 AM] Lady Kianna: XD [6/30/16, 4:12:37 AM] Nick: So what does her twin do? [6/30/16, 4:14:29 AM] Lady Kianna: IDK tbh. Kainze is Ryn's character. Blind sassy smart ass who'll troll the fuck out of you as much as possible. Usually has a bit of seer/fortuneteller abilities. [6/30/16, 4:14:57 AM] Nick: Nick nodnod [6/30/16, 4:15:42 AM] Lady Kianna: OH right I almost forgot we worked out their classpects. And they can sort of stabily switch a bit? Mischa: Witch of Light Kainze : Seer of Void [6/30/16, 4:15:52 AM] Nick: Okay, cool [6/30/16, 4:16:00 AM] Lady Kianna: 5yrs and we finally figured them out. LOL [6/30/16, 4:16:18 AM] Nick: I feel you [6/30/16, 4:16:22 AM] Nick: I'm the worst at classpects [6/30/16, 4:16:36 AM] Nick: I have to get other people to classpect my characters [6/30/16, 4:17:02 AM] Lady Kianna: Well tbh they werent really developed at first. It's only recently that they've actually had personalities other than 'adorable wrigglers being adorable' [6/30/16, 4:17:09 AM] Nick: Fair [6/30/16, 4:25:32 AM] Lady Kianna: interesting blind isn't under physical flaws in the core rulebook. Nor deaf. just hard of hearing / poor sight. mute is in here though. [6/30/16, 4:26:33 AM] Nick: Huh [6/30/16, 4:28:00 AM] Lady Kianna: I think also I should read through mage the awakening for a possible necromancer [6/30/16, 4:28:25 AM] Onna Stik: Possibly also Geist. [6/30/16, 4:28:36 AM] Lady Kianna: Ghosts + stuff? [6/30/16, 4:28:42 AM] Nick: Isn't Geist just if you die though? [6/30/16, 4:28:51 AM] Onna Stik: Well, they have death powers so. [6/30/16, 4:29:09 AM] Nick: Nick shrugs [6/30/16, 4:30:00 AM] Onna Stik: Basically they were brought back from death by being quasi-possessed/combined with a powerful ghosty-thing and now they have deathy powers. [6/30/16, 4:30:08 AM] Nick: Okay [6/30/16, 4:30:17 AM] Lady Kianna: so like a banshee/lich ? [6/30/16, 4:32:08 AM] Onna Stik: Not exactly that, either. Like... mediums, sort of, with a very personal and insistent guide. And not exactly that either. [6/30/16, 4:33:57 AM] Onna Stik: http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Geist:_The_Sin-Eaters [6/30/16, 4:36:16 AM] Lady Kianna: so they are possessed? Or I guess a geist would be the possessee? [6/30/16, 4:37:24 AM] Lady Kianna: This is an interesting dynamic. [6/30/16, 4:37:45 AM] Onna Stik: To an extent? Usually the geist can't actually make them do anything. I think low Synergy changes that, though. [6/30/16, 4:38:30 AM] Lady Kianna: Low synergy/psyche, from what im reading [6/30/16, 4:38:59 AM] Lady Kianna: I wonder how well this would work with Mischa as a Bound Sin-Eater and Kainze as her Geist... [6/30/16, 4:41:00 AM] Nick: Oooh [6/30/16, 4:41:23 AM] Onna Stik: That could be fun. [6/30/16, 4:41:32 AM] Nick: It's a good idea [6/30/16, 4:41:42 AM] Nick: Worth at least some consideration [6/30/16, 4:42:04 AM] Lady Kianna: Both died... only Mischa not so much... and with stronger ties to the occult... [6/30/16, 4:44:59 AM] Lady Kianna: Reading more; that wouldnt work. Gheists are really old ghosts that want to come back to fuck around with the living. [6/30/16, 4:47:07 AM] Onna Stik: ok I gotta sleep [6/30/16, 4:47:15 AM] Nick: Good night! [6/30/16, 4:49:11 AM] Lady Kianna: o/ gnite [6/30/16, 4:50:00 AM] Lady Kianna: gonna stick with witch turn- necromage/darkmage [6/30/16, 4:50:15 AM] Lady Kianna: She has a black cat familiar. a black skinned sphynx. named Baastet [6/30/16, 5:05:14 AM] Lady Kianna: >_> i have spent about half an hour drawing a character sheet ... then just now realized i shouldve asked if we have a template we're using. [6/30/16, 9:14:44 AM] Zin Karyuu: "Dunno how necromancy would work in WoD it's been ages since I played WoD and even then it was only sparcely my tabletop group would do it. We had like 5 campaigns." Moros! Though straight up necromancy is... high above a entry character and would lead to destabilizing reality. So. Fun. [6/30/16, 9:14:58 AM] Zin Karyuu: Ah hell i skipped to the bottom, nooo [6/30/16, 9:15:56 AM] Nick: : ( it happens [6/30/16, 9:17:03 AM] Zin Karyuu: Hehe [6/30/16, 9:17:23 AM] Zin Karyuu: Back. And geist may work - and I've tweaked things to suit atory before. [6/30/16, 9:17:35 AM] Zin Karyuu: Got to shower and run yo work i slept in aaah [6/30/16, 9:18:22 AM] Zin Karyuu: Oh. Moros is a mage subtype btw [6/30/16, 9:23:36 AM] Zin Karyuu: If they dies at the same time, tho, having one go geist.... and the other remain a lingering ghost with the sin-eater as an 'anchor' - essentially something keeping them there - could be v cool [6/30/16, 9:26:11 AM] Zin Karyuu: Playing on horror- over time, thr friend may lose some of themselves and become a flatter reflection or focus on a single aspect of who they were. Alternatively... upon death, the friend has one HELL of a rough start to the afterlife and gets smooshed with a death spirit to form a geist... which would likely be some nightmare fuel levels of warping who they are... And third... the friend is consumed by a geist and becomes an aspect of them. Which is theoretically possible and probably involves body horror. [6/30/16, 9:26:59 AM] Nick: : D lots of horror [6/30/16, 9:31:23 AM] Zin Karyuu: Zin Karyuu scurries down the stairs and out the door [6/30/16, 9:40:28 AM] Zin Karyuu: We should copy major discussion into the kintsugi thread, I think [6/30/16, 9:40:37 AM] Zin Karyuu: ...ok.now i actually gotta drive [6/30/16, 9:40:49 AM] Nick: okay, i can do that, I'm on a computer [6/30/16, 9:54:53 AM] Zin Karyuu: That would be wunderbar [6/30/16, 9:55:27 AM] Zin Karyuu: I probably need to regulate my tendency to go "oh. People must be busy, I'll let them tap in later" /me nibbles lip [6/30/16, 9:55:32 AM] Nick: fuckit, i have no clue what is important or not [6/30/16, 9:55:43 AM] Nick: gonna copypaste everything [6/30/16, 9:55:46 AM] Zin Karyuu: Hahaha [6/30/16, 9:55:47 AM] Zin Karyuu: Ok [6/30/16, 9:55:59 AM] Zin Karyuu: Try to do readable chunks? I dunno. [6/30/16, 9:56:04 AM] Nick: yeah of course [6/30/16, 9:56:08 AM] Zin Karyuu: Ok :) [6/30/16, 9:56:18 AM] Nick: no problem
These are the three confirmed character concepts we have so far. :0 Sheets have yet to be made for anyone, but, for those interested, Melkiah will be going over how-to on Skype at 4pm pst - and I'll have him copy it down here for those who prefer not to use Skype. ( Melkiah has, for the record, been in all of the in-person games I've run, so he has a firm grasp on how I tend to roll with character generation and which things I let slide for sake of story versus crunch, so if I'm not around or am at work, he's a great resource. )
Uuuh we will be a bit later than planned we will ACTUALLY BE LOOKING AT AN APARTMENT AT 5PST and then will be home /nod
I think we already have each other? I'm lizardmek. I was asked if I was okay with being invited to a group chat, but to my knowledge I was never in one. I will probably miss this (even if it's after 5) because I've got a date tonight
Oh. Oooohhh. Am I too late to join in on this? I have a teenaged Hunter character I've been tossing around for a bit. Or something else. I am not terribly picky.
Richard Jackie Knaggs: Reclusive hunter compelled to join the Wild Hunt, consequently became one of the hunted. Beast/Runnerswift
Changed the original post, named my gal: Evelyn Browne. Mercurial Fireheart changeling who spent her time in Fey as a living lantern flame, she doesn't burn any less these days.
Eeek, getting notifications is apparently hard. >>; Reworking an old character. Elena Yakir, twelve years old and terrified. Two years ago, her big brother started sneaking out at night. He stank of incense and gasoline, he hid bruises and gashes. She knew something was wrong, but he wouldn't tell her anything; he said it was for her own good. So she started following him. She saw... things. Bad things. Now he's disappeared, and she's the only one left who knows where to look for him. She's a raccoon in human form, cute, too smart for her own good, and unnervingly violent. She's obsessed with being old enough, strong enough, for people to take her seriously. So she can know what's going on. Yeah, this ain't gonna end well. (I'd be starting her off as a Mortal in gameplay terms, but she's obviously heading down the road to Hunterdom and may have picked up a merit or two on the way. Her big brother's probably either a mage or a demon, and may be dead. Of course, if he's a demon, he hasn't been "her brother" in a while. Ukrainian Jewish descent, her grandparents were immigrants to the US.) Does... this sound sensible? >>;;; /flails. Spoiler: nopes and yeses Okay, so this is a twelve-year-old kid wandering into bad shit. She is definitely getting messed up in the head and horribly injured, and may well end up dead or turned into a monster. I am totally up for this, please mess up my character. :D Leaving the brother-situation largely up to GM discretion; Elena has very limited knowledge. I'm kind of intrigued by the mindfuck of him turning out to be a Demon - that for the past few years, the guy she thought was her brother has actually been the guy who killed him and took over his life. Also fine with her never finding out what happened to him, honestly; that's just the hook and catalyst that drives her into obsessively plumbing the depths of the darkness. I'd rather not have her running into any sexual stuff, because... well, the character's way too young. If folks would be more comfortable, I can age her up, but I kind of like the wild-eyed desperation of a kid Hunter. Nobody will take her seriously, and it's driving her over the edge. (No objections about other characters doing stuff; just... y'know, child character.) OOCly, I have some lingering PTSD related to hospitals, cancer, and zombies. I think I'll be okay, but a heads-up would be appreciated if those come up, so I can brace myself.
