space loser giant kitty committee (voltron)

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by unknownanonymous, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. pixels

    pixels hiatus / only back to vent

    @Lerxst that but in shiro/pidge flavor please and forever

    eta. who else is on board for some shiro/pidge mindmelding smut
     
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  2. Lerxst

    Lerxst salty parabola

    I do not sail upon that ship but if I write this thing it's gonna at least throw you a bone, have no fear
     
  3. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    i think 'she' for pidge, she seems to be a girl who doesn't femme, rather than a trans guy, since the purpose of disguising herself as her brother was to get into the school since she herself was banned. but you could also make a case for nonbinary and they; it's not like she changes her appearance after coming clean.

    the show manages not to use any pronouns whatsoever post-reveal, the beautiful bastards.
     
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  4. pixels

    pixels hiatus / only back to vent

    if i tell the story from pidge's point of view and use second person narration and not have pidge overhear any conversations mentioning pidge, then i won't have to either! look, i didn't even use a pronoun for pidge in that whole sentence! and i think this is what's messing me up about what pronouns to use for pidge, i've never heard anyone else use pronouns for pidge yet in-series so i don't know what pidge would prefer.

    and my brain won't stop the 'he' because reasons. 'she' feels too feminizing for pidge for some reason, in my dumb brain. 'they' feels best but probably wouldn't be what pidge prefers. DILEMMA.
     
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  5. TheSeer

    TheSeer 37 Bright Visionary Crushes The Doubtful

    There is none. My Pidge is genderqueer and uses "he" or "she" depending on mood. "They" is common in other people's fics. But I consider all that to be headcanon. Canonically... probably she/her, because the line "I'm a girl" seems pretty unambiguous, but I do note that the show completely avoids pronouning her post-reveal, which makes me thoughtful-face. (Her voice actor apparently uses "she," if that's important to you.)


    I usually ship Pidge with Hunk, but I'd probably make an exception if you were writing it. (Not just because I know your quality, but because that pairing pings me as pretty fucked up because of the commanding officer thing, and you are good at fucked up pairings in particular.) And I am down for mindmelding smut at any time.
     
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  6. pixels

    pixels hiatus / only back to vent

    oh i... i was going to take it to the happiest place it could possibly go... but if you want me to take it to the very extremely horribly bad place trust me i am all over that shit
     
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  7. jacktrash

    jacktrash spherical sockbox

    i ship pidge with hunk because they nerdbanter like seebs and i do
     
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  8. TheSeer

    TheSeer 37 Bright Visionary Crushes The Doubtful

    For whatever my opinion's worth, I would at least like the potential fucked-up-ness to be acknowledged. The fandom has split into warring factions over the age thing while completely ignoring the superior officer thing, which irks me because I think Shiro at least would have his priorities the other way around. But I'm uncomfortable saying so - I find that I have really come to dislike anything that smacks of telling people what content not to create. Ignore my preferences unless you would enjoy considering them.
     
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  9. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i like pidge's pronouns as "he" or "they," personally.

    i basically theorized that he was a trans guy when i started watching the series, before the reveal.
     
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  10. pixels

    pixels hiatus / only back to vent

    this is my kink. like this is partly why i ship it. because pidge in s1e1 gets the truth pried out of her with a pair of pliers (sort of) when she stands up to shiro about the prisoners thing, when he, uh. sort of won't take no for an answer WHOOPS THAT'S A LITTLE UNSETTLING. but i'd like to think it punched him in the solar plexus as much as it exposed her heart on her sleeve. and now he has this huge weapon to hold over her and this intimate knowledge of her that he doesn't have of the others because he picked up so much secondhand from the holts during his mission and it could go so badly so fast and i want to see them burn

    but i'm rewatching the shiro/pidge scenes from s1e1 and all i can think of is, at the first whisper of any sort of mistreatment, pidge telling shiro "wait until my dad hears about this" (because commander holt as i understand it was shiro's CO) so just thinking about shiro cowering in front of pidge the tattletale makes me cackle absurdly loudly

    of course you're also talking to someone for whom this ship pings recognition of shipping a 43yo CO with his 21yo direct subordinate who initially was brainwashed into being the perfect partner for him. o o p s. turned out fluffy in the end because they deprogrammed him and also escaped the abusive intelligence program that had put them together like that! the older one had a scar on his face and the younger one was a smol green logic. if you're going to put shiro/pidge into an au that doesn't have the command structure, or have them somehow escaping the command structure (idk, post-voltron???), it could be non-problematic. like, not even a hint of problems. but as it is now, yes, problematic in the original sense of the term, fraught with potential huge problemos.

    (now i just want to ship commander holt/shiro until my typing fingers turn into little nubs from the Problematics.)
     
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  11. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i'm guessing that the smol green logic is delta, though i don't know where him being 21 would've came from, and that the older one is york.
     
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  12. pixels

    pixels hiatus / only back to vent

    i think after having wrestled with it for a few hours
    pidge gunderson is just the mask that katie holt puts on to survive and find her family. katie is a she, obviously. pidge isn't even a person, it's a persona. and i'm glad that pidge is being more honest about what's underneath the mask, and told everyone on the team (after being outed by a bunch of fucking mice what the fuck). but i think that's why i'm still conflicted over pidge's pronouns, because pidge don't real. i kind of like "they" as a compromise because pidge is a girl but had to be seen as male, but i have to imagine that it rankled katie something fierce that she couldn't be respected until people used "he" pronouns and the name "pidge." what gets me, and why i'm shipping lance/pidge like a motherfucker, is that lance isn't a lecherous hump with pidge. so, y'know, if gender is partially performative and about social dysphoria, i'm sure pidge is ??? that lance isn't treating her like he treats other "she" people.
    i, uh. not to toot my own horn but back in 2009 i basically made the entire fandom ship these bastards because of a "humanstuck" AU i was writing for, of all things, the kinkmeme. it was all very fucked up because the AI were child soldiers, basically. wash was 35 and epsilon was 16 and it was the most fucked up :""") i can link you to it on my ao3 but it's honestly ancient fandom history by now and no one probably remembers or cares except for the one no-fun-allowed person who insisted that york was straight (laughing forever)

    e. because i a word
     
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  13. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    it felt the opposite way to me, personally. pidge felt more genuine and real to me as pidge than as katie. i don't know why, but yeah...

    and link me!
     
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  14. Xitaqa

    Xitaqa Secretly awesome

    I want to see Tragic Shiro Feels, like he's been turned into a sleeper agent by druidic mindfuckery or something, so the team has to grieve and rebuild and also fight the thing that wears his face

    This does for me what shipping seems to do for others, idk why.
     
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  15. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i don't know why but shiro, agent washington and soldier 76 all give off the same vibe for me. like, if i stop thinking for a bit, i can mistake any of the three for one of the others.
     
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  16. kmoss

    kmoss whoops

    I dunno about soldier 76 because I don't think I'm in the fandom
    but I think they all hit that "good soldier" vibe for me, which bucky also skims and which jason todd (while ironically making me think of the phrase) sort of makes a mockery of

    the whole "noble young buck done a disservice to by his own" thing, yknow? with a splash of "still trying to do the Right Thing"
     
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  17. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i'm not really in the overwatch fandom either, but i get enough osmosis to start thinking about it.

    and yeah, that's probably it. :D
     
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  18. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    ...
    oh god that's right that was you.
    i keep forgetting that's your account
    and then I remember and feel weird. because OH NO OLD FICS FROM A FANDOM YOU'RE NOT IN ANYMORE REALLY and that makes me feel like a creepy person for reading them.
     
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  19. Lerxst

    Lerxst salty parabola

    I don't play Overwatch but have absorbed just enough lore and fanon that I can totes mcgotes see Jack and Shiro being Team Dad Buds and kinda want to see fanart of them playing golf or something,
     
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  20. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I want to see all the crap he's been through in his backstory, in detail, and then think of ways to make it more horrible and trigger him to hell and back. I want them to have dug around in his brain so he can't trust his perceptions, and I want him to instinctively hit people who touch him wrong. I want him broken and bleeding and no one able to help put him back together. 888)))
     
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