What are your fan fiction gripes?

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by OtherCat, Aug 27, 2016.

  1. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    Here you go! It's pure fluff--a lot of worrying on Jane's part but everything ends up happy and good. I think I wrote Dad pretty well too. Hope you enjoy it! :)
     
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  2. dky

    dky burnt toast

    when you write a fic - the premise being mostly new for the fandom - and someone else copies it to the T just to turn it into porn
     
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  3. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Grimdark fic with inappropriate and possibly unintentional humour. A gruesome rapefic should not end with a Star Wars shoutout.
     
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  4. keltena

    keltena putting the fun in executive dysfunction

    I find this state of affairs highly acceptable provided the character(s) in question would be inclined towards inappropriate humor as a coping method. But otherwise, yeah, that sounds like a hilariously jarring tone shift.
     
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  5. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    The characters weren't in a setting where they would have had access to see Star Wars, so it was all on the author.
     
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  6. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Yeah, if it was, like, Harry Dresden getting abused, A++ 100% in-character.
     
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  7. peripheral

    peripheral Stacy's Dad Is Also Pretty Rad

    Harry Dresden would somehow make a Bugs Bunny's Reference even if he was literally nothing more than a sentient hand.
     
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  8. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    He's literally been dead and kept making Star Wars jokes.
     
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  9. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Spoilers, but I guess I'm not surprised. :P
     
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  10. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    what book are you at?
    cause he died in grave peril, technically
     
  11. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    ... Oh, yeah, right. Was there a Star Wars joke? I don't exactly remember. I finished White Night a few days ago.
     
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  12. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    don't ask me, my memory is super spotty, I haven't reread that one in ages.

    (do we have a dresden thread? cause i need to hear your white night thoughts since i spent the summer reading that one over and over for dresden files rpg reference reasons)
     
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  13. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

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  14. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Characters who are applauded for dodging their heroic responsibilities. Barbara G Walker, the writer I mentioned upthread, does this a lot; she seems to see compassion and charity as weaknesses, and her characters will not help others until either they're paid enough or the plot forces them. In fanfic cases, In This World And The Next has Harry and Hermione merrily fleeing to Australia at the first sign of trouble and having a happy holiday with her parents while the wizarding world goes to hell behind them.
     
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  15. turtleDove

    turtleDove Well-Known Member

    Ugh. That's - okay, I can see Hermione doing that, post-war? Because fuck this shit she's done, and all that. But Harry's explicitly got a saving people thing, and if Harry's been pulled in, Hermione is probably going to roll her sleeves up and wade in after him to make sure he doesn't get his idiot self killed in the process.

    But yes, "heroes" who keep trying to weasel out of doing heroing and getting applauded for it is. Erk. No, please, unless the people doing the applauding are supposed to be the ones who would explicitly see compassion and charity as weaknesses?
     
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  16. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Similarly, here's one about Super-Dark-Edgy heroes which rings true:
    "... the people who write Dark!Independent!Harry stories can’t conceive of a hero who doesn’t stoop to wizard-Hitler tactics in order to win. They figure that not becoming your enemy in all things is a sign of “weakness” or “lack of will to win” and as a result Harry’s victories are a sign of “bad writing” or “cheap deus ex machinas” or whatever.
    This is also why you tend to see the Manipulative!Dumbledore cliche in these sorts of fics: the authors are writing Dumbledore as they would run the fight with Voldemort - ruthlessly and borderline-sociopathic. Of course, because Harry’s the nominal hero and Dumbledore’s an obstacle (and IMNSHO a bit of unconscious self-honesty) all this ruthlessness and sociopathy is done ineptly."

    Another gripe with porn fics; lack of foreplay. Story starts by dropping you straight into the sex, great, stylistic choice. Story has setup and possibly plot and then suddenly characters walk onscreen and BAM THEY HAVE BONERS AND INSTANTLY START FUCKING makes for a very jarring shift.

    Also also, writers who feel the need to infodump everything which happened in canon up to this point before they start the fic. We can tell when it is by what is going on. We do not need a reiteration of the entire book first. We read it too.
     
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  17. KingStarscream

    KingStarscream watch_dogs walking advertisement

    I mean, Dumbledore in canon does run the edge of broderline sociopathic (or at the very least, shockingly neglectful) so "manipulative" might be the nicer comparison, rather than "so fucking removed from empathy or sense as to be hilarious when he's not horrifying in retrospect", but that can also be considered an aspect of HP getting Darker And Grimmer as the series marched on.
     
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  18. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I have an ex-friend who was like that about everything, and literally referred to characters who were more ruthless as "better." And ignored their arcs and how the narrative treated that ruthless practicality. And got mad at things that had protagonists make a moral decision not to go down that route. I am so glad I stopped interacting with him well before Steven Universe came out, so I never had to be subjected to his opinions on the Biscourse.
     
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  19. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    the biscourse was the worst thing i have ever witnessed.
    why do people want the adorable child to solve his problems through murder
    why
     
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  20. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    But he does. In every episode. With his knife.

    But yeah seriously, the SU fandom has a disturbing inability to grok any of the very fucking basic messages of the show.
     
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