Star Wars

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by MagicalBoy, Sep 29, 2015.

  1. prismaticvoid

    prismaticvoid Too Too Abstract

    Yup, Donnie Yen played Blind Force Guy :P he's been in about eleventy martial arts movies (including playing Ip Man!).
     
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  2. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    ...man, who the fuck would use antimatter to fuel a fighter spacecraft, that's just asking for trouble. (admittedly, so is using gasoline.) and, like, what would melt the metal and push it outwards? I've distinctly seen X-wings in vacuum with one engine on fire that then exploded without being hit again, so it can't just be the energy bolts alone heating it up. and I dunno what antimatter explosions look like, but like I said, the ones in the film definitely look like combustion. /science nitpicking

    oh, bless you, you are a island of common sense and sanity in this sea of terrible, terrible rocket science! :D

    @unknownanonymous [offers fellow Cassian fistbump] Cassian is a good person to be! he has an excellent cynical expression and also nice hair! I think those Stormtroopers weren't, like, separate characters in their own rights, just different costume designs that they've used? also @first question hello, pacifist here, I don't fight for anything, where's my option?? I had to say I fight for peace! (although I guess the fighting could be metaphorical?)
     
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  3. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    :D:D:D:D

    oh, well, then, i don't think i chose the prettiest design and i regret that now.

    it probably is. i don't think buzzfeed expects us to fight in a rebellion against an evil empire.
     
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  4. prismaticvoid

    prismaticvoid Too Too Abstract

    I picked the Clone Wars design because I am Attached to pretty much everyone from the show, lol
    (Also I got Jyn, which is interesting? I related a lot more to Bodhi and Chirrut)
     
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  5. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    The stormtroopers were different suit designs. Original series, ???, first order, ??, tie fighter, ???, endor, clone wars, hoth.

    I was undecided on two answers and filled it out twice; one time I got Chirrut (blind priest) and one time I got Bodhi (defector pilot)

    Enjoyed it, do not regret seeing it. Still very very male all over, but nearly as overwhelmingly so as orig trilogy.

    Kind of pissed off Saul died. Another fucking Vader in a way. A guy doing awful violent things, hurting the cause of good, who realizes he was wrong in his hatred... So he dies. Redemption in death instead of redemption in rebuilding. Excusable in that they needed to reduce his relevance so it wouldn't be a thing in the orig trilogy, but I still don't like it.

    I rather want to watch this and then A New Hope, since it segues so directly in, and continues the domino chain of people dying to pass the info on.

    Still want to know who the Boffans who died are, since I never heard that term thrown around.

    eta: K2 is fucking fantastic and I love him.
     
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  6. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    you're referring to Cyborg Extremist here, right? I didn't catch his name, but the wiki informs me it's spelled "Saw," actually. I didn't catch his explicitly rejecting his earlier hatred, though, aside from sort of laying down his weapons, metaphorically speaking, and staying to be killed by the shockwave, which I thought could have a number of other motives behind it. probably I missed an important line of dialogue or shot, though. :P so yeah, what supports your conclusion?
     
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  7. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    I don't remember a specific line, just the impression that he'd likewise assumed (Galen Ursa? The scientist dad) had turned on them after all. The message and seeing protag Jan/Jen/Jin again and her tearful hope seemed to break something in him.
     
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  8. BaseDeltaZero

    BaseDeltaZero Shitposting all night.

    True enough. The FX aren't exactly realistic.
    As for using antimatter to fuel a fighter, well, there aren't a lot of great options. An advanced plasma torch, maybe?
    Canonically, they're mostly ion engines, which... admittedly, *some* of the engines actually look like that, but it'd have to be the most high thrust ion engine of all time.:mystery:

    As for what an anti-matter explosion would actually look like... probably not much of anything, since most of the energy released is in the gamma spectrum.

    I never really got around to drawing a picture, or anything, but other modifications included moving the main cannons to the centerline and adding some to the bottom. And making the bridge tower less tall. And also a flying bridge.

    My theory on the Hypermatter issue is basically that... hyperdrives work by, essentially, translating the craft along an orthagonal dimension so that the speed of light is higher. This increases the vessel's speed far above the conventional speed of light while not actually effecting its momentum. On the other hand, E=MC^2 is still a thing. So an object in hyperspace has a higher energy density for its mass. Much higher. By drawing energy from various sources and 'compressing' it, you can create hypermatter, which is then stored suspended halfway into hyperspace. Removing this suspension results in it releasing this energy. Hence, really highly efficient energy storage... with a bit of a tendency to explode when it catastrophically loses power.

    I kinda prefer the ICS 2 silliness to the... other variety of silliness we're getting now. Give me my gigatons back!
     
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  9. sirsparklepants

    sirsparklepants feral mom energies

    I saw rogue one last night and really enjoyed it! (Also I watched with closed captions so if anyone wants a list of official name spellings because star wars is like that I'd be happy to provide.) I got Galen on the buzz feed quiz, which was interesting but accurate, I think.

    I actually really did not enjoy TFA, so I hadn't planned on seeing this one, but I found out Donnie Yen was in it and my boyfriend is his biggest fan boy so we went. I really liked it! I liked the ensemble nature of the cast and everything felt balanced in terms of dialog to action scenes to flashbacks/setup sequences to me. As soon as they killed K2, I knew it was going to be an "everyone dies" movie, and I did actually appreciate the weight that that gave the rebellion and their cause. I'm still really lost on the entire political situation (there's an Alliance against the empire but they have a mini Senate and a whole planet as their base but somehow this isn't obvious enough for the empire to go after? I'm really confused as to how they got to this point, because I'd been assuming that the rebellion was like a civil war within the Empire? Can anyone shed some light on this for me?) and command structure, but putting that aside, it was satisfying and felt like a star wars movie. There wasn't a ton of time for characterization but I feel like all the actors did a lot with the the time they had. I do want to know more about Krennic, though - like, the entire movie is his triumph falling apart around him, and that makes me want to know about how he got highly placed to begin with, etc.

    One thing that irrationally bothered me: I really expected Vader to be taller than he was for some reason. Against Krennic he didn't come across as large and looming as I remember him in the OT. Also the neck of his suit seemed off to me. Both of those could be explained by the fact I haven't seen the original movies in several years, though.

    Edit: upon further reflection I think the lighting had a lot to do with it. Iirc, OT Vader was always lit either with very harsh bright lights like in Leia's ship, or with a lot of shadows and gray backgrounds like in the emperor's throne room or the death star. I don't think the warm-toned light of lava (which, by the way, does the Emperor have the guy who almost burned to death in lava in a life support room also surrounded by lava? What a dick) did any favors for the intimidating nature of the Vader suit.
     
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  10. Exohedron

    Exohedron Doesn't like words

    When the Clone Wars broke out and the Confederacy of Independent Systems tried to secede, Senator Palpatine gathered a lot of power by defeating the Confederacy and was given Chancellorship of the Senate. It was a pretty bad time for the Republic, so a lot of people thought that more centralized authority and strong leadership was a good thing, and most of the Senate agreed.
    And then Palpatine declared that the Republic was now an Empire built on military force, and a lot of the Senate thought this was a good idea. Some of the Senate was kind of leery of that, but decided to see where this led.
    Some other Senators, among them Mon Mothma and Bail Organa, said "no, fuck that." and left to form the Alliance to Restore the Republic, also known as the Rebel Alliance.
    So we've got most of the Senate under the leadership of Chancellor Palpatine, and they're running the Empire. And sometimes they might object to some of the stuff the Empire does, but they're basically powerless to actually do anything. Palpatine gets rid of them altogether shortly before or during A New Hope.

    The Rebel Alliance at the time of Rogue One is actually an alliance: a bunch of groups that have come together because they all want a thing to happen. This naturally leads to arguing about how to bring about the thing. The "mini Senate" is just that there's a bunch of former senators, and then there's the leaders of the other groups, and nobody really seems to be in charge of the whole thing.
    They're not really strong enough to be considered a "civil war" quite yet by most accounts; they're insurgents, but nobody is openly with them. Palpatine mostly uses them as an excuse to built up the military and to enforce military rule, but doesn't really take them seriously until after the first Death Star gets blown up.
    The base on Yavin 4 was undetected because Yavin as a whole wasn't on Imperial maps for some reason; the Rebels only had the base for about a year or so before A New Hope anyway.
     
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  11. sirsparklepants

    sirsparklepants feral mom energies

    @Exohedron ty, that was very different than what I was thinking and makes much more sense.
     
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  12. prismaticvoid

    prismaticvoid Too Too Abstract

    Vader looked different because there was a different dude in the suit! Thank the universe for James Earl Jones, though :D
     
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  13. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    I read on a trivia list that the lava planet is in fact Mustafar, where the lava-induced burninating went down in the first place. My read was that Palpatine hadn't stationed him there, Vader had chosen it because ~this is where he became his true self~ or whatever, though that interpretation is based on zero hard evidence whatsoever. Though I did read somewhere else that aesthetically, that lava-lit dark tower is supposed to be a LOTR reference, because that was one of the original inspirations for Vader's character.
     
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  14. rats

    rats 21 Bright Forge Shatters The Void

    my friend posted this on facebook about TFA and im just like
    :headcanon:
    "I am definitely NOT the most knowledgeable Star Wars geek out there, BUT from what I have gathered, I actually do not think Rey is Luke's daughter.

    I think that plot "twist" would be incredibly, incredibly tropic and boring, and while I can definitely see such a thing occurring, I dread the possibility. I actually think that a far more interesting theory is that Rey was a virgin birth, like Anakin, and was conceived by the force as another "chosen one".

    Rey's parentage is fairly unimportant. It doesn't really add to the plot in any meaningful way to know who birthed her or who sired her. (Plus, it is extremely misogynistic to base the worth of a girl on who her father is!!) Whoever, Rey's parents were, they did not want her. They left her on Jakku to a life of servitude. Luke has no reason to do such a thing. He is a living legend. His child would have been prized by any rebel ally.

    As a foil to Kylo Ren, I think this is entirely appropriate; Kylo's parentage is everything to him. The ghosts of his father, his uncle, and his grandfather haunt him, turning him to the dark side. He is overshadowed by Solo, Skywalker, and Vader. Rey knows no such pain. She has no familial history, no imposing, legendary figure who shares her bloodline. The only thing that ties her to any previous Star Wars characters is the Force.

    And then, of course, there is Anakin. I do not think this will ever be divulged in the movies themselves, but I think that if my theory is correct, there will be many hints to suggest Rey is Anakin "reborn". Just the concept of Kylo Ren and Rey fighting could be cast in a new light... But most importantly, it is so much more thrilling than having another stupid, infuriating revelation that two characters are actually related!!"
     
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  15. theambernerd

    theambernerd dead to all sense of shame

    HI I JUST WATCHED ROGUE ONE AND IM VERY EXCITED AAA

    aaaaaaaa
    the pacing was sorta weird in the first act but i felt like the second act was p great and the third act was SOO GOOD aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa alkdsjflskj i just. i like Jin a lot and I felt like it ended really well and the very ending got me SO PUMPED i just watched the original trilogy some like, a week ago but i WANNA WATCH IT AGAIN
     
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  16. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    basically my entire feelings about rogue one can be summed up thusly

    SOMEONE REC ME SOME GOOD CHIRRUT/BAZE FIC I NEED IT IN MY LIFE
     
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  17. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    Looking back, one thing I don't like is how short the movie's in-universe time is.

    Like, they go from confirmation of the Death Star's existence to seeking the plans to getting the plans in what, a few days? It feels too fast. Like they should have been searching for the details longer. Instead, it's not til the pilot leaves that they have any idea the scope of what they're looking at.

    Other lingering complaint: managing to transfer the plans through space, but not managing to transfer them out into space from Leia's ship. For, fine, too rushed, insufficient tech, whatever. The transfer from the planet should have taken longer. Or at least the download should have.
     
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  18. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    Also I did the quiz and got Gallen Erso? Like fuck, bro. Chirrut is my spirit animal.
     
  19. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    (Also is anyone down to play one-on-one Star Wars OCs with me? I know it's christmas but I HAVE A MIGHTY NEED )
     
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  20. Zuki

    Zuki Well-Known Member

    (I am open to Star Wars OC rp! I'll be much faster if it's chat/short message based than longer text paragraphs)

    I really liked Rogue One when I saw it! I appreciated that it was so fucking chock full of detail, and I squeaked with glee at Chirrut ("Force Adept! Force Adept with a staff and kung-fu, he's basically the character I always wanna make in the RPGs.) I was very much reminded of a party of RPG characters and a great one-shot campaign, in a very good way.

    When I was later asked what my favorite part about it was, I realized I had a hard time saying what. (Unless it was, 'Any time K2 or Chirrut is on screen doing stuff) I later realized that I thought the characters were a little flat, particularly compared to what we get going on in TFA.

    Still! I'mma go see it again today, and I think Friend might not be spoiled for all the spoilery things that happen in it, like I was. I wonder if I would have enjoyed it more had I not known going in that
    everyone, yes, everyone, dies.
     
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