Shipping Gripes Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by furrylatula, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter literally Eevee

    .....all right but all this considering of how shit could be Fucked Up in a Rose/Roxy or Dirk/Dave relationship is. making me want the Fucked Up Relationship.
    grabby hands for fic about this kind of thing focusing on both person's feelings. gimme.
     
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  2. furrylatula

    furrylatula a pissed off homestuck girl

    incest ships in general tend to conveniently skip over the natural human tendency of incest squick

    which i mean obviously i can understand why but it still hits my Everything Must Be Realistic Unless Explicitly Not button
     
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  3. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter literally Eevee

    .....seeing things like that kind of fucks me up, tbh, for Reasons I'd Rather Not Mention. it's....a trigger for me, I guess. feels weird to call it that....but like, yeah, I don't want to see fics that don't deal with that, I want to see fics where incest happens but the relationship is super fucked up on both ends and squicky feelings happen for at least one person, and everything is Bad. that is what I want.
     
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  4. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    Here! Walk Before You Run by Arathe. Unfortunately it hasn't been updated in about two years, but it's still worth reading what's there imo, it's an excellent fic.

    Another good Dave<>Bro fic is Pale As Moonlight And Kraken Murderbots by Asuka Kureru. That one's a oneshot and a straight-up troll AU.

    And now I will stop reccing fic in the gripe thread -_-
     
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  5. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    There's one fic in my fandom that I am 90% sure the author wrote before finishing the game, because not only does it not acknowledge the incest squick, it literally nowhere in the fic even acknowledges the fact that it's incest. It's tagged appropriately, but. Uh. You'd think that would have come up.
     
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  6. Scheherazade

    Scheherazade It's a story fractal

    I just want consenting adults who aren't related to each other. I feel that this is not a difficult request. It should not be this goddamn hard to find.
     
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  7. furrylatula

    furrylatula a pissed off homestuck girl

    to be honest i have the same thing but it deals more w abusive situations (age gap, slave/master, canonically abusive ships, etc)
    sent myself into a rage spiral over a picture of crotuna where mituna looked very chill with the whole thing
    pff nah no worries yr perfectly welcome to show fics that do the ship right while bitching about fics that do the ship wrong
    we might be salt gremlins but even salt gremlins like a piece of candy once in a while
     
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  8. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    I don't mind the lack of the incest EW reaction in incest ships but then that's because I myself lack it. So for me it's just kind of like

    Eh? Normal. Yes.
     
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  9. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    What does bother me is I can never decide if I want the fact that it's not socially acceptable to come up as drama or to live in my happy fantasy world of literally no one cares though. I guess it's just a mood thing based on what I feel like at the time. Sometimes I just want my fantasy incest where literally no one gives a fic but other times I want people to give a fuck.
     
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  10. furrylatula

    furrylatula a pissed off homestuck girl

    i mean TO BE FAIR the little incest shit that i dp ship doesnt have it but i prefer ships that are horrible on their own merit and the incest is just the icing on the cake

    theyre also both au ships and one is a mother who didnt raise the son and also is banging him out of spite for the father instead of genuine attraction x her son who has never met her and doesnt know shes his mother and the other is two almost grown half siblings who are very skeevy in their own right and also only met each other like a month ago
     
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  11. Deresto

    Deresto Foolish Mortal

    I only have a squick with incest when it has a power imbalance that hits too close to home. Otherwise? It doesnt really register. I avoid fic that points it out but i'll read an incest garbage tank if its not brought up or its an au where theyre just made not related
     
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  12. Deresto

    Deresto Foolish Mortal

    Although sam/dean will forever be a no for me, it hits all the wrong buttons for some reason. Theyre codependent garbage bros, not fuck buddies.
     
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  13. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    -sobs about the scarcity of amaricest-

    Also sam/dean just kind of sounds boring.
     
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  14. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter literally Eevee

    I just can't deal with fluffy incest where everything is fine and functional and no one cares
    it fucks me up
    sibling is.....less of a reaction, but anything parent/child, even if it was a situation like Rose and Roxy or Dave and Dirk where they are technically both each other's parent and child, needs to be completely fucked up for me to not be triggered
    even then sometimes it's still bad
    there's a small section of "fucked up enough that I can read it, but without things hitting too close to home" and that is what I enjoy
    what? trauma? no this has nothing to do with trauma why would you suggest that hahahaha
     
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  15. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Well I don't necessarily mean fluffy fic with no one caring. Sometimes I want depressing bullshit but for the incest portion of it not to be part of the problem at all. Like the Knorth twins are hardly a fluffy happy times entirely functioning without griping or hurting each other ship. But the incest doesn't factor into the why things are shit between them.

    Though sometimes I do want just want fluff yes.
     
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  16. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter literally Eevee

    oh, that wasn't really directed at you, sorry! probably should've mentioned that in the post. I was just kind of commenting generally since we're discussing incest.
    but that said I can't read an incest fic unless the incest is part of why things are Fucked Up. like, even if it's a minimal part of why things are fucked up, I need it to be fucked up.
     
  17. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Oh pff. Yeah I thought it was in reaction to me since I was the one who was like WOE IS ME I WANT NO ONE TO GIVE A SHIT EXCEPT WHEN I DO WANT THEM TO.
     
  18. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter literally Eevee

    no, I was just commenting generally :P sorry!
     
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  19. peripheral

    peripheral Stacy's Dad Is Also Pretty Rad

    the harry potter meta is pretty interesting, but my personal opinion on tonks/lupin, which i have mixed feelings about, is that BISEXUALS EXIST and that lupin, sirius, tonks and probably a few others are all smooching.

    also why do people ship moran/moriarty for acd THEIR DYNAMIC IS DIFFERENT THAN IN OTHER PLACES ugh.
     
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  20. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter literally Eevee

    I mean, yeah, bisexuals exist, but Tonks/Lupin is just. so badly handled and forced that I can't really see it. that doesn't have much to do with whether or not bisexuals exist? I honestly like the idea of bisexual Tonks.
     
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