I'm considering trying to move out of my parents' house under my own steam - advice/logistics?

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by BlackholeKG, Feb 27, 2017.

  1. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Hold on

    In education
    You will not normally be able to claim universal credit if you are undertaking a course of full-time advanced education. However, you may be able to claim universal credit even if you are receiving such education if you are entitled to attendance allowance, disability living allowance or personal independence payment and you have been assessed as having a limited capability for work (see section 5 below).

    I saw section 5 and can't find anything helpful, this is so confusing...
     
  2. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    I mean, I'm not currently undertaking my course, I'm on a leave of absence, what does that even... :V
     
  3. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Does that mean I don't count seeing as I'm not currently attending for 12 hours a week?

    Maybe I should email somebody about this.
     
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  4. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Also that's for Scotland, so idek if that's accurate or what the Birthday thing is about, or if that's even the same in England
     
  5. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    The rabbit hole goes yet further
     
  6. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    NOPE, I'm fucked.

    If I wanted to get the UC benefits I'd have to give up on going back to uni. Period.

    ..........................................................
     
  7. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

  8. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    So yes, I'm not entitled to any benefits that are worth anything unless I un-enroll from university.

    In order to support myself I would have to do so entirely under my own steam, by working a job. Which would likely have to be near full time to support my renting even the cheapest of flats in the city.

    This is the situation and I'd appreciate any advice whatsoever.
     
  9. aetherGeologist

    aetherGeologist Well-Known Member

    I'm low on spoons right now but I can probably dredge up some benefits information tomorrow if that's helpful
     
  10. aetherGeologist

    aetherGeologist Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure you can get dla/pip (and depression should count as a disability for that under the rules although the government are sadly trying to change that) while being a student, unless they've changed the rules since I was at uni
     
  11. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Thanks, albeit I think the boat might well have sailed on that one unless I actually do quit uni.

    I am wondering, however, if still technically being a student might mean that I could rent student accomodation for a lower fee. The renting websites I'm looking at do have a student category, although I'm unaware what is required for those, and it's often unclear if it's meant to be shared or what.
     
  12. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    I think I can, if I don't also work. Unfortunately, I'd need to work to support myself, at least part time, and if I was making under the cap limit I still wouldn't be able to support myself even with the (fairly miniscule) benefit, from what I saw.

    But if you know to the contrary please let me know!
     
  13. Pumpkageist

    Pumpkageist Warning: I Shitpost

    Many Citizen's Advice Bureaus can offer a full benefit check that can tell you what you can claim, benefitswise, and they might be willing to look at what your circumstances would be if you moved out, and also support you through moving out and putting claims in for any benefits. I'm willing to try to give you some advice/locate some info for you, but it might take a while. To start with, though, I found these links. I don't know what you've looked at already, so I don't know how helpful these will be, but here they are, anyway:

    https://www.gov.uk/student-finance/extra-help

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/b...ousing-benefit/#h-who-can-get-housing-benefit

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/finding-a-place-to-live/finding-accommodation/
     
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  14. Pumpkageist

    Pumpkageist Warning: I Shitpost

    Actually, you don't need to be out of work/unable to work to claim PIP.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/b...s/pip/before-claiming/check-you-are-eligible/
     
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  15. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    I was under the impression that this was only available to people who had physical mobility problems or needed the support of carers?

    (Also yes, I would be so grateful for more advice and resources, there's so much to look through and having some help from somebody familiar with everything would be so much help. Also, if you know the routes to go through to ask to get more info... I would also be grateful).
     
  16. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    I'm not physically disabled or measurably incapacitated in anyway other than spoon-wise.

    Just depressed.
     
  17. Pumpkageist

    Pumpkageist Warning: I Shitpost

    No on "needing support of carers". PIP claimants do not need to have carers- having care needs just means that you have areas in your life that you need support (including spoon shortage, not that you must be receiving that support, or that a condition of the benefit is seeking support. Bear with me a sec and I'll try to find the actual scoring breakdown they use.

    I will say, however, that the criteria/points allocation process for PIP is very stringent (and weighed in favour of physical disabilities) when compared to ESA (which is for people who cannot work or can do limited work, and aren't in education)- as an anecdote, I am autistic and pretty severely depressed, but because of how I present, and the fact that my issues don't cause me the kind of problems they score most highly for, I meet the criteria for neither PIP nor ESA- and it is becoming increasingly hard for people with purely mental illnesses to be granted PIP on a first attempt, but it is worth submitting a mandatory reconsideration if you are knocked back for a benefit.
     
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  18. BlackholeKG

    BlackholeKG I saw you making fire

    Also, I was amused to discover the cheapest rentable property in London. It is billed as a "bedroom garage".

    Cheapest.png

    Hopefully I can avoid that.
     
  19. aetherGeologist

    aetherGeologist Well-Known Member

    spoons count! Many of the questions on the PIP form are written with the assumption that you have a physical disability, but if you can't do any of those things because you're out of spoons you should be as eligible as someone who can't do them because they have a physical disability.
     
  20. Pumpkageist

    Pumpkageist Warning: I Shitpost

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