Steven Universe

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Wiwaxia, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    Did...did they just establish Steven/Connie as fully canon? (Granted, it's Ronaldo saying it, but...)

    ALSO CONNIE IS AN OFFICIAL CG NOW I'M SO GLAD <3
     
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  2. Choco

    Choco Duke of the Weepy Marshmallow Brigade

    is it just me or is this episode oddly perfectly timed re: current forum drama?? like several moments were just Too Real
     
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  3. Nochi

    Nochi small waterfall of pure void

    I feel like this was a How Not To Ally episode. Ronaldo going from "I know how to X better than you, why aren't you more Y", based on outside observations, to actually asking Steven questions and accepting his answers/experiences.
     
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  4. Technicality

    Technicality All's fair in love and shitposting

    Yeah, it made me feel really uncomfortable. I don't think I really liked this episode. As much as the message was good it seemed really...off
     
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  5. Okay, so I'm two minutes into the new episode and here's my thoughts so far.

    Hmmmmmmmm. I wonder if this means something. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
     
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  6. Okay, actually done with the episode.

    Ronaldo is a jerk and continues to be a jerk. He thinks he's an outsider because he's weird, but in reality, it's just because he's an egocentric asshat who doesn't really care about anything except being cool and special. Aside from the fact that he's an idiot and doesn't know what he's talking about, his attempts to "educate" people about the Crystal Gems would do more harm than good if anyone actually cared, and his attempts to BE a Crystal Gem actually did do harm to Steven because he doesn't know what he's doing, and only does it for the attention.

    Second spoiler for self-deprecation
    Honestly, as much as I say I relate to Pearl, I'm more like Ronaldo than anything. I have a strong desire for attention, I want to be special, I want to matter. But I'm not good at anything, and I'm a jerk. No one likes me because I'm a fucking jackass, not because I'm a nerd, and insulting and hurting myself all the time just makes the cycle continue because it's all about me, my flaws, I suck, pity me. But I'm not really sure how to stop?
     
  7. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    The fact that you're actually self-aware of it already makes you better than Ronaldo. Talking to a therapist and following good advice would be the next step, I think.

    As to the episode -

    Yeah, that was DEFINITELY 'how not to be an Ally'. I've seen similar things with transphobia and austism-stuff first-hand. 'If you're a dude then why are you curvy/smol?' 'If you're austistic, how are you doing so well with eye contact'? Bluhhhhh. Also tbh this episode reminded me so well that I have DATED narcissistic self-loathing idiots like that, and it's not fun for anyone involved.
     
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  8. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Episode thinks!

    they HATE MEN omg
    STEVEN NO NOT AGAIN
    ronaldo somehow missing the fact that EVERYONE already knew about the Gems is still funny to me
    i need a pic of that face of Pearl
    oh god.
    ronaldo you've never been to Steven's house
    steven it's RONALDO.
    oh god the secondhand embarassment
    BLOODFRY
    and like. we know there are human crystal gems. look at Connie!
    ronaldo why are you like this.
    ugh. I'm glad Steven is getting annoyed with him though.
    FRYROCKO
    well, beach city is really nice, he probably won't get mugged or anything
    or you're just a jerk.
    'that's rough buddy' PFFFFF I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE
     
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  9. Technicality

    Technicality All's fair in love and shitposting

    Is this the one you meant?
     
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  10. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

  11. Deresto

    Deresto Wumbologist

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  12. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    it is hilarious how on youtube there is a video about the episode that says like, "bloodstone gem revealed" on it, and yet... bloodstone ended up just being the name ronaldo chose for pretending to be a gem, not some epic reveal or anything.
     
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  13. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Okay, but "I Can't Believe My Stepdad's My Sword".
     
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  14. evilas

    evilas Sure, I'll put a custom title here

    You know one thing I loved about it?
    Ronaldo was a jerk and stuff, but at no point did Steven ever stop calling him by his preferred name. Even after he left.
     
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  15. Charlie

    Charlie I got no strings to hold me down

    I thought it was interesting how we see just... -how- pliable Steven is in the face of others. Like we've seen Steven upset before about not doing the right thing, not being nice enough to someone, not meeting their standards, but it feels like Steven is especially hard on himself here. It's interesting to see that flaw highlighted.

    also I thought the message was nice in the 'it's nice for kids' way, probably not a message you get a lot at that age bracket.
     
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  16. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    maybe he's being even nicer and more pliant in response to his conflicts over the awful things his mom did - like he feels like he has to distance himself as much as possible from that part of her. it's never clear how far apart episodes are chronologically but storm in the room probably didnt happen that long ago
     
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  17. Technicality

    Technicality All's fair in love and shitposting

    @Charlie your profile picture is A+
     
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  18. Charlie

    Charlie I got no strings to hold me down

    I wonder if that's possible... I feel like Steven has struggled with this issue a few times, like with Jasper and Bismuth but these circumstances are comparatively small. He let Ronaldo lecture him, went for a walk and asked himself what was wrong with him. So he might be more pliant! I wonder if he thinks Rose's mistakes are her not being agreeable or pliant enough or just a separation from any aggressiveness being read into him whatsoever... Being separate from that is already a big deal to him so I wonder.

    @Technicality thank you very much. he's a good but slightly bitter boy.
     
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  19. Technicality

    Technicality All's fair in love and shitposting

    @Charlie Asriel was actually my profile picture until Ruevian drew me this one (which was super duper nice)
     
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  20. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    in storm, iirc, his specific issue was with Rose's hypocrisy - that she imprisoned bismuth for shattering a gem and then turned around and shattered a gem. maybe he's zeroing in on the "you have to treat everyone fairly and kindly, even people you don't like" tenet, cause he's obviously not that comfortable with ronaldo's whole thing

    or
    it's just funnier that way
     
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