Rating System (was: what even are social noises round N+1)

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by seebs, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Well I mean, I said I was frustrated by how much they overlapped :P I wouldn't mind at all if both of them went, but dropping at least one would be pretty awesome.
     
  2. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    I meant dislike on a level of causing harm. I donßt think frustration about overlap trumps someone getting more ability to communicate when it does not do harm.
     
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  3. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Oh no, I said it messily across like four paragraphs and you said it cleanly in two lines ;u;

    But yes, this is the thing I was trying to say. I don't want people to touch me in real life, and I can't stop it entirely, but I also don't walk around wearing a sign that says 'touch me if you want!' That, but with internet affection.
     
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  4. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Also I apologize, I´m not good at making words today so things might be jumbled.
     
  5. Mendacity

    Mendacity I’m meaner than my demons

    I think just having 'Informative' instead of having both is a better idea. That way we have a way to be like "Oh hey this was nice and informative thanks man!" without wording that much and being able to word other things in our posts
     
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  6. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    But I mean that in the direction of accessibility. Legitimately, the more reactions are added, the more I am going to be unable to use the reaction system at all. A lot of that is down to emotions and my brain freezing up trying to parse and select, but it's still accessibility. And I don't think I'm the only person in that situation. If there isn't beneficial reason to have a thing, it helps me to have it removed. It isn't ACTIVELY hurting me, but removing it still helps.
     
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  7. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Letting other people communicate is a benefical reason. Funny and winner are already going, sympathy will only replace hugs. At most the amount will stay the same.
     
  8. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Competing needs is what I'm trying to say. I'm not trying to argue for a return to likes only, even though that would be easiest on me. I've even been saying things about how to implement the 'seen' whatsit, even though it's going to make my life more difficult. But 'informative' and 'useful' overlap, there is minimal benefit to keeping them both and it definitely helps to have one go. Heck, even if another reaction fills in that space and the count goes back up, then that's fine! As long as it's a different reaction that covers different territory. If the reactions stay compact and streamlined, that's what helps me, and having both 'informative' and 'useful' with all that overlap is not compact or streamlined. I can see the point of having one, but I don't see people arguing that they definitely definitely need both of those things.
     
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  9. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    How would people feel about "Interesting" replacing both "Informative" and "Useful"?
     
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  10. TheSeer

    TheSeer 37 Bright Visionary Crushes The Doubtful

    That goes both ways - sometimes / for some people, having more options makes it harder to communicate. Even with just one option, deciding to click "like" would occasionally fry my executive function and I'd fail to use it. Eight options is too many for me to process routinely, even though I really wanted to have more than one. (I've needed a "witnessed" button for a long time.)
     
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  11. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    If we Must cut one, I would argue to keep Useful since things which are informative are arguably useful, but things can be useful in ways other than being informative.
    Even though they are not the same and I still would prefer the option of both.
     
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  12. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Also, I want to clarify a thing: The problem here isn't that Affection Is Bad. It's that affection can have complicated boundary issues. The rating thing bypasses some of the normal forum features, and that makes it more important to give weight to "we want to reduce risk". Like, we don't worry about people posting "hugs", because that's something that you can moderate, it's something you can avoid seeing by ignoring someone, and so on. Ratings bypass that, so I'm being more restrictive. So even though I think 95+% of "hugs" reactions would be fine, and I think intentional use to hurt people would be vanishingly rare even among the cases where it's upsetting to people, it's too likely to end up triggering people, and I don't think it's a great choice.

    Hmm.

    Okay but a thing occurs to me:

    The system does allow restricting some reactions to some forums. We might be able to make a thing with that?
     
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  13. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    I like "Acknowledged" because it makes me feel like a robot.
     
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  14. Emma

    Emma Your resident resident

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  15. chthonicfatigue

    chthonicfatigue Bitten by a radioactive trickster god

    IMG_0916.jpg That really does imply a level of physical intimacy which makes me uncomfortable :p
     
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  16. vuatson

    vuatson [delurks]

    Oh boy the inconsistent alerts are driving me absolutely bonkers tho. As well as the lack of user icons in the list, to a lesser extent.
     
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  17. Emma

    Emma Your resident resident

    Why did you have to make a perfectly good suggestion all dirty? :P
     
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  18. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Roger the cabin boy.
     
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  19. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    I like Usemative but Informful would probably do too xP
     
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  20. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Not good. It doesn´t mean the same as either word.

    Edit: If one word, pick one or the other, since at least useful and informative Mean useful and informative
     
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