Steven Universe

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Wiwaxia, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i'm mostly like, "it does not sound like enough time for steven to redeem all the Gems."
     
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  2. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    it's not even enough time to meet all the gems, let alone befriend them all :(
     
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  3. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    yeah, though what i meant was more like, "it is not enough time to redeem all the Gems we have met."
     
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  4. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Well, i don't think so, exactly. Homeworld definitely seems focused on community - a Gem should fill their role, which serves Homeworld. Lone wolves would not be useful. The problem arises not when a Gem cares about another Gem, but when another Gem cares about another Gem - or a place, or anything - more than they care about Homeworld's goals.
     
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  5. Bunny

    Bunny aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    Me and the best friend were discussing aquamarine. She had misheared her name introduction as just Marine and was like ??? Marine? Like navy seals? So I was like imagine the copy pasta, it's perfect.
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  6. Inkblot

    Inkblot I'M GOING TO THE LOST CAUSE PIT, MA

    Yeah, I think maybe I worded that a little wrong-- I meant more that, of the Homeworld gems who've expressed a detailed opinion on fusion so far (admittedly, that's only been Jasper and Aquamarine that I can recall) they seem to come from the same place of "you should've been enough on your own," which to me suggests it's a system-wide attitude.
     
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  7. Charlie

    Charlie I got no strings to hold me down

    Like, I guess it just doesn't seem like enough time to hit all the points that seem important?

    Like idk, I was hoping we'd get followup with Centipeetle, Jasper and (biggest) Bismuth, so it doesn't sound like a lot of time for that.
     
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  8. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Yeah, I'm kind of expecting like... one episode to wrap up the corrupted Gems, then Everyone Back For The Finale or something??? idk. maybe an episode about convincing Bismuth to build something they need for the endgame, who knows.
     
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  9. Deresto

    Deresto Foolish Mortal

    I kinda felt okay with where centipeedle left off? Shes happy.

    I would like to know what happened to corrupt all the gems but it not like shes unhappy or in agony or anything, and i didnt really read her sorrow in her episode as "im a monster" but rather "i was betrayed by someone i thought was a god and im pretty sure my family is dead"

    I could possibly be approaching this from somewhere brainbug infested, though

    As far as any other plot strings im pretty cool with them being left to rot as well, id rather leave them open ended rather than a slapdash rush job be done, plus the whole show is kinda thematically leading to "sometimes horrible things happen and its not your job to fix everything" so steven and crew suddenly being able to fix everything or everything just happening to work out in the last minute would be a bit disappointing
     
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  10. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    That's a point. Centipeedle and the Cluster both just needed a bit of help to being okay with where they're at, as opposed to like... Marty. Jasper. There's something meaningful about how fusion is a conversation, a shared experience, a back and forth.
     
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  11. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    You know, this is is nothing to do with the current conversation, but I've been thinking about Diamonds and how there's (there was) only four of them when there's plenty of diamond-mineral to be had in the universe as far as we know, I mean all you have to do is put carbon under sufficient pressure and voila, diamond XD

    But then it occurred to me that maybe it's not the commonality of the mineral, but the size of the individual deposit. The largest diamond ever found on earth was the Cullian Diamond at a mere 621.35 grams. Looking at Yellow and Blue, just ballpark-judging by scale alone, I wouldn't be surprised if their Gems weighed (if anyone dared to weigh them, ofc) some dozens of kgs more. (I'm bad at maths, someone do some better ballpark estimates for me, I'm judging by comparing Greg to the size of their Gems in That Will Be All).

    The linked wiki article shows the miner who found the Cullian Diamond holding it in one hand. I reckon the Gems in question to be somewhere approaching the size of that guy's torso, not to mention the fact they're perfect diamond-cuts. I bet a jeweller looking at one couldn't find a single damn flaw (after he put his pants back on and recovered from the shock of something that valuable of that size XD).

    That also leads me to the question - how are Gems shaped? Pearls generally come in an ovoid or rounded shape like that, but show me an amethyst that's been cut and polished right out of the ground like that and I'd probs laugh myself sick (or bite it to check it wasn't glass, obvs). The Injectors must do a great deal more than we originally thought, and I mean, the Gems as a race can't be naturally evolved, not with shapes like that. Unless proto-gems like proto-man were rough-cut, and they deliberately began to sort and cut themselves to be better beings?

    Idk, man. I'm just thinking a lot of thoughts.
     
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  12. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    I WANT BISMUTH BACK AND I WILL CRY IF SHE IS NOT BROUGHT BACK
     
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  13. Charlie

    Charlie I got no strings to hold me down

    The one character of the one's who I mentioned... who would come off as bad writing if she wasn't brought back long enough to be significant, is Bismuth. I've always had faith the show would bring her back and give her ample followup time so I feel concerned about that now. (Centipeetle personally... is more of a 'I wish they'd follow up with her', we learnt some tantalizing things about her and she's one of the oldest plot threads)
     
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  14. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    I mean. didn't Bismuth have some voice actor who was hard to get or cost a lot or something? because I remember people taking her voice actor as indication that she wouldn't be coming back for very long, if she came back at all.
     
  15. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Uzo Aduba! She's pretty high profile, yeah.
     
  16. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    yeah. so like....if Bismuth does come back, and I really do want her to, I don't think it's going to be along arc, particularly, or if it is, she won't be on screen for much of it, I guess.
     
  17. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i'm not sure what bismuth would do if she came back now, though

    like, it feels to me like the rest of the story will basically take place on homeworld, with steven and lars and the diamonds and the crystal gems (if they come get him)

    and like... i don't see how the hell bismuth (or jasper or centipeedle, for that matter) would be brought into that storyline

    i don't think anyone would really trust bismuth after what she did
     
  18. Lazarae

    Lazarae The tide pod of art

    I'd like to at least see Bismuth in a "things getting worked out" final episode montage. Like, even if they can't get her VA a clip of her talking with Steven with music playing over it would be something. If they just leave that plot thread hanging I will kick a puppy. (You know someone's gonna Discourse it to death if she's left bubbled without Steven at least mentioning letting her out.)
     
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  19. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    a final episode "things getting worked out" montage might work, but i also want the "it's not your job to fix everything" theme @Deresto mentioned to be fully realized, if it becomes a thing. like, it looks like that is the way they are going and if it is, i don't want a "things getting worked out" montage.

    (yeah, probably. but the Discourse is stupid.)
     
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  20. chaoticArbiter

    chaoticArbiter an actual shiny eevee (destroyer of worlds)

    I....kind of disagree? about not trusting her. I mean, she was pretty clearly in a bad place when that happened. and part of the show is kind of....trusting people to do better after they do shitty things while in a bad place, or do shitty things because they just don't know better. and yes, I think that would apply even in a situation where she tried to kill Steven. for one thing, at the moment she did that she'd stopped believing he wasn't Rose Quartz and she thought she was facing the person who actually imprisoned her and then lied about it, so I kind of understand that reaction, just a little? like yeah I'd be kind of bitter too if someone locked me in a bubble and didn't even tell anyone else why for ages and ages even after the rest of the CGs were corrupted or gone. on top of that, I kind of feel like she probably has some kind of PTSD from fighting in a war for so long, and she also clearly had a lot of anger and bitterness over the war and what it did to other Gems she cared about. and part of the show is the idea that working through past shit to be a better person is fully valid. so like, yeah, I can see how they might not be totally cool with her initially but idk can we please not write her off as "no one would ever trust her after what she did"
    I mean part of Steven's conversation with Bismuth was that most Gems he meet attack him and/or try and kill him
    and Peridot got a redemption arc and people seem to think Jasper could totally get a redemption arc so like
     
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