Fandom Gripes Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by keltena, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. aetherGeologist

    aetherGeologist Well-Known Member

    I've seen people bash Kylo Ren fans for "giving him the redemption arc that should have been Finn's."

    Which doesn't make sense on multiple levels.
     
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  2. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
    they're completely different types of characters
     
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  3. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Yeah, and again, Finn's only "crime" is being kidnapped and brainwashed from childhood. There's nothing TO redeem. He hasn't actually done anything wrong except be affiliated with The Bad People when he didn't have any other choice.
     
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  4. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    of course, this is tumblr, where any interaction with The Bad People makes you horrible and problematic
     
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  5. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    God damn that is stupid. Though the thing that annoys me most besides Mando dude bros is the fuckers who are EXTREMIST about the legends material or the Disney shit.

    The EU fans who are extremely pissed and think that Disney ruined absolutely everything and are assholes about it are assholes. Also if you are a Mando dude bro blaming Disney for RepComm's non-canonicity you have no real argument. It was non-canon before the buyout due to the Clone Wars. Feloni and the Lucas Film management at the time are who you need to be expressing ire towards. Disney had fuck and all to do with that debacle.

    The Disney fans who meanwhile are overly spiteful towards EU fans and are like the EU was all trash are also assholes.

    You can prefer one over the other or be done with one part of Star Wars but for the love of god do you have to be such dicks to people about it?
     
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  6. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    *bursts back in two days late with starbucks*

    AND ANOTHER THING

    Chromia has been getting ship tease with Ironhide pretty much since she started being an actual player driving the plot (plus the eighties canon). Aesthetically, she has at least some feminine indicators. I just really, really want to know where the heck is this stone butch coding

    Also, flashbacks to the time I got hatemail for writing this m/m ship for a character (a robot), when I should have been writing that m/m ship instead, and ugh how dare I. But they allowed that at least I didn't straightwash a queer man (robot).

    Where are people getting this nonsense?
     
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  7. BaseDeltaZero

    BaseDeltaZero Shitposting all night.

    It's the helmets, I think. The T-shaped visor is reminescent of the similar Greek helms.
     
  8. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    if you use a black and white filter in your red vs blue amv, i will have pretty much no fucking idea who is who

    i mean, seriously, the voices and the armor colours are the primary ways i tell apart the characters and if you remove both, your fanvid quickly loses all meaning

    like, yeah, i know who is who in Certain Significant Scenes but in normal fight scenes or whatever, i need the colours and/or voices to tell what the fuck is going on and get the desired feels from it
     
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  9. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    this time, i'm griping at myself. myself and colours.

    making crossovers is hard when colours that are hella important in one thing mean shit that just doesn't fit in another thing. and of course, i could solve this by just going with default white souled undertale monsters but... i really like undertale monsters with coloured souls and magic blushes and magic pants stuff, so... fuck...

    and like, i definitely can't compromise the red vs blue armor colours (and since monsters wear clothing, i won't entirely have to but i don't want to give everyone too many colours in their palettes either) but i'm not giving everyone Unfitting SOUL Colours either.

    i'll probably have to go with "all the monsters SOULs are white and the monsters all blush red" to make it make sense to me but i don't want to.
     
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  10. Deresto

    Deresto Foolish Mortal

    i rather like the white souls with a colored outline a lot of fanartists do for monsters, would that be workable? plus, people cant really control what traits they have to make the different magic colors in game, so itd be seen more as a personality thing rather than choice? that way you could do both colors from both things maybe.
     
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  11. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    yeah, that would probably work! :D

    i mean, my brain is kinda loling over the idea of, say, "my dick is green 'cause i am feeling particularly kind today," but other than that, it sounds pretty workable, yeah.
     
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  12. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    I'm sick of the thing where you can't say, "hey this villain seems mentally ill" because it means you think all mentally ill people are fucking cartoon villains who're gonna go and stab their dads. Piiiiiisss entirely off.

    As someone who has read non-tumblrite posts about how Kylo Ren can never be redeemed because he's obviously crazy and dudes like that just need to be put down, I don't think that kinda talk strikes as much a blow against ableism as they want it to. The people who're gonna look at a dude who talks to inanimate objects and throws temper tantrums and punches his gaping stomach wound and think "wow, this dude isn't exactly mentally sound" aren't gonna not think that just cause you whine at them a bit. And maybe if what you want out of thw story is the same thing the dudes who think "not mentally sound" = needs to be put down like a dog....
     
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  13. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    Also, the post that prompted my last post said "if Kylo Ren turns out mentally ill it won't be good representation" and like buddy what do you expect to happen, like the dude's gonna get an official diagnosis? Like Luke's gonna hand Rey a bottle of pills and say "here's his schizophrenia meds what that he went off the day before he killed a bunch of dudes, because he's schizophrenic." or something, like please. It's never gonna be anything but a way of interpreting the character.
     
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  14. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    What we're going to miss between movies is Luke training Rey to be a fully certified psychiatrist, and when she graduates from being his student, he's going to hand her the greatest gift a Jedi can ever give his pupil-- a fully stocked, portable pharmacy and a copy of the dsm-5
     
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  15. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    If that had happened in the prequel trilogy, so much tragedy could have been avoided.
     
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  16. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Honestly half the star wars villains seem to sum up to "really needa therapy and some pills". Need a villain? Get a mentally ill person. Maybe stick them in a cult. Now give them a planet destroying laser.
     
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  17. keltena

    keltena putting the fun in executive dysfunction

    I used to play a game with JRPGs where I'd try to determine how much of the conflict could have been completely prevented just by getting one person adequate therapy/support. E.g., the entirety of Tales of Symphonia's conflict owes its existence to one kid never getting proper grief counseling, most of Last Scenario's stems from two people's years of unaddressed trauma, and all the world-spanning death and destruction of Knights in the Nightmare happened just because Heaven thought brainwashing their people into emotionless, unquestioning servants who deny any feelings of their own and then sending them to deal with serious issues was a functional plan. It's fun!
     
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  18. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    See also: Tales of the Abyss drinking game. Drink whenever something is not directly or indirectly Jade's fault. Spend the entire game sober.
     
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  19. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    sometimes i see a funny moment from canon used at an epic, emotionally powerful part of a song in a fanvid and i'm like, "uh... this is awkward."

    i mean, it can work but sometimes the funny canon context just sticks too deeply in my head

    that and there are times when non-funny scenes are used in fanvids in ways that don't really fit the scene or song, emotionally or thematically speaking

    and like it's all pretty subjective and what works for people varies but my brain is very insistent about highlighting stuff in fanvids that just don't work for me. and yet i love fanvids. they are awesome.
     
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  20. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    that and fanvids that make no sense when i try to get a narrative from them

    which doesn't bother me so much on ones with funny songs but with feelsy songs it gets me 'cause with feelsy songs, i'm taking it more seriously as a thing

    and it's hard to explain

    hmmm.... fanvids where it's like, "so it's steven universe wait for it but steven is burr and connie is used as theodosia and onion is used as james reynolds. and peridot is hamilton. and it starts with lion barfing and ends with a random scene from garnet's universe." that exact fanvid i described doesn't exist, it is just an example i made up, but i have watched several vids that feel that way to me, and which seem unaware of how little narrative sense they make.
     
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