Fandom Gripes Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by keltena, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. Morven

    Morven In darkness be the sound and light

    That is so close to

    AKIO DID NOTHING WRONG

    that it scares me
     
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  2. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    upload_2017-7-11_20-59-17.png
    ... He murdered him.
     
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  3. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    I can get not liking Kylo Ren, as a character and a person and a part of the Star Wars story. I get it when people talk about how Leia and Han deserved better and shit. It's upsetting that the only legacy character we've got is a shithead. The old EU at least gave the Solos two good eggs and Luke one to counterbalance their Sith spawn. I get it. But, like. Star Wars isn't gonna be a masturbatory revenge fantasy? Rey can't just graphically murder Kylo in front of his cheering, grateful momma in this space fairy tale for children.
    Maybe I'm just taking people venting or whatever too seriously, but I can't help but think a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment.
    There's a post where someone chides people for wanting Leia to have to perform the "emotional labor" of forgiving Kylo, and like. He's her son and he killed her husband. As it turns out, she's gonna have a fucking rough time of it emotionally no matter whether she ultimately does a Luke and forgives him or not. It's like. Kylo's a part of the story, not just. I dunno, a symbol of spoiled white male privilege or whatever.
    I dunno, star wars drama is tiresome.
     
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  4. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i think that, so far, i am probably the only person in the red vs blue fandom shipping temple/biff. or creating any content at all for it, anyway...
     
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  5. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    it gets worse: there isn't much temple content. period.

    ... so... i guess i get to/have to make it myself then! okay! fine!
     
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  6. Morgan Jae

    Morgan Jae pecure. sontain. crotect.

    is there middle ground between "davekat is bad and roxygen is canon" and "davekat is bad and vrisrezi is canon" because... sometimes i swear there isn't
    i'm tired of seeing unproblematic uwu lesbians vrisrezi esp post-retcon

    also, wrt undertale:
    is there a middle ground between "frisk and chara are canonically nonbinary, also i'm asrielkin" and "nb is an sjw thing, [refers to frisk and chara by gendered pronouns]"
     
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  7. Morven

    Morven In darkness be the sound and light

    Well, there's the argument that Frisk and Chara represent players and thus can be anyone we choose, surely? Undertale does kinda poke holes through the fourth wall, after all.
     
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  8. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i think that middle ground is on kintsugi, if what you mean by that is "frisk and chara are canonically nonbinary, and it's not a sjw thing and i'm not kin with anyone."
    i get what @Morven means by it being anyone we choose and them representing players, but i don't really like the players interpretation (they are both distinct characters in themselves, though it's less clear with frisk) and binary representations of them always feel off to me.
     
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  9. Morgan Jae

    Morgan Jae pecure. sontain. crotect.

    yeah, i think part of it is the fact that i latched on to them early as Canonical Representation, and so I can't really avoid flinching at gendered pronouns because it feels like watching someone you know being misgendered. not gonna get snippy at anyone for it, but probably not gonna enjoy their stuff either

    saw someone using he/him for chara and she/her for frisk in a fic because it was "so difficult" for them to think of the two by they/them.
    zero sympathy.
     
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  10. peripheral

    peripheral Stacy's Dad Is Also Pretty Rad

    I mean I will when I'm done writing my fifty thousand other things :P
     
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  11. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    yay!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D
     
  12. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    you guys wanna hear something really hilarious? remember how earlier i bitched about red vs blue amvs using black-and-white filters? well, guess what?

    i just rewatched some early red vs blue and... canon does it too. and not just in the grey-vs-gray episode from season 14 in which it was the entire joke. even though putting (most scenes from) red vs blue in black-and-white makes it confusing to watch.

    ... i do not know how to feel about this...
     
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  13. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    the (definitely fanmade) youtube captions on the last few red vs blue episodes i've been watching don't make very much sense. 'cause, like, according to them, simmons is lopez, the alien is mexican and grif is "griff." and that's only the tip of the nonsense iceberg.

    some of these captions make sense, though. just not all of them.
     
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  14. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    omfg the fan captions are calling grif "grief" now

    they are sure an adventure
     
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  15. Morgan Jae

    Morgan Jae pecure. sontain. crotect.

    hey, they're fan-captions, don't give them too much grief
     
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  16. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i see what you did there :P

    also they're in spanish now

    wtf
     
  17. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    You know what's nice and fun? Making a post. A SILLY post. With a silly observation. Where you know and SAY that it's a silly observation and that there are logical explanations for the thing, but it's more fun to think these silly thoughts.

    And it takes less than an hour for someone to reblog replying that 'wouldn't the reason be [X]?'

    Yes obviously that is the reason if you are being serious it's almost like I said flat-out there are logical explanations.

    Good for you, you made an observation where I carefully chose my screencaps to make it less obvious. None of this matters because it's all science fiction and space and space tech does whatever you want it to. You've explained the joke and now I get to sit here stressing out because now ~OBVIOUSLY~ everyone who sees this post will think I'm a moron. I was having fun and you successfully made it un-fun.

    All I wanted to do was point out that the grumpy old grandpa has a huge bulky nineties phone while lots of people are shown talking on smartphones. That's all.

    The big phone is big because it's for long-range communications. The little phones are short-range. Wow, imaginative, BORING, I even specifically cut out the panel where the character was like 'I'm about to go out of range--' All I wanted to do was make a stupid nineties joke
     
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  18. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Today from the annals of "I was going to reblog that fanart until I saw the caption":

    So, background. My favorite game is getting a remake. The remake's character art is terrible; soulless, same-facey, obviously corner-cutting, and with basically no personality. Basically all the female characters have been turned into moeblobs with faces that look copy-pasted, and it's very obvious executive demands to make them look ~sexier~ and more generic were involved. The character art that's caused the most complaints, though, is one of the female party members, who had her design changed from having short, curly hair to a long, straight hime cut. Considering that she's a princess and the combination of moeblob face and hime cut makes her look like an intensely generic princess stereotype, some variation of "WTF did they do to Eruca's hair? It looked so much better short!" has been prominently visible in the comments of basically every video, article, or piece of news about this stupid remake I've seen, including on sites other than ones I frequent.

    People have been responding to this by, variously:
    1. theorizing/hoping that there would be a dramatic haircut scene (alas, probably jossed)
    2. drawing spite art of short-hair Eruca
    3. drawing art of long-hair Eruca that actually looks like her (because it has, like, facial features)
    4. making jokes about Eruca's evil stepmother making her wear extensions
    5. making jokes about Eruca being upset about her hair
    So, I saw long-hair Eruca fanart in the tag, I was like, okay. Then I scrolled down. *paragraph of talking about how everyone's been hating on Eruca so much recently, she's still the same character, stop bashing her!*

    I HAVE SEEN LITERALLY NO ONE CRITICIZING HER CHARACTER. MOST OF THE DESIGN COMPLAINTS ARE THE OPPOSITE. We're mad because we really like her character and think the remake's art and design does her a disservice.

    Anyway I did not reblog that fanart.
     
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  19. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    this is petty, but according to a poll on the red vs blue wiki, the fandom thinks temple's the most evil villain so far, and i'm like... wtf no he's not. i mean, seriously, how is he more evil than felix, who does bad stuff for fun and money? more evil than omega, who literally tried to destroy the world 'cause he's literally made of rage? more evil than the meta and sigma, who would do anything to steal ais in order to become metastable? more evil than the chairman, who tried to exterminate and/or conquer chorus for the sake of... money or something else like that? more evil than the director, who used people for the sake of humanity's survival and in pursuit of a memory?

    ... i just don't get it. does the fandom think temple's the most evil villain so far just 'cause he's new?
     
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  20. peripheral

    peripheral Stacy's Dad Is Also Pretty Rad

    I think it might be because Felix and Locus had time to become fan-favorites (and Locus has that whole redemption deal going), meanwhile Temple shows up and almost immediately he reveals that
    he's been murdering Freelancers who had nothing to do with Biff's death, and are frankly just as much victims as he is by keeping them in their suits until they die of starvation/lack of water/cook to death/etc
    and the Director had the whole semi-redemption.
    And I wouldn't call the Meta evil, per say.

    So I kind of disagree, since I think the Chairman is kind of worse, since he's partially responsible for a lot of things the other villains did, but it's not as though Temple is particularly innocent himself.

    Like, he seems to have been pretty cool
    when Biff was alive, but now, like you said somewhere else, he is basically Leonard Church without any resources. Except he does have resources.

    That's my spitballing as to why.
     
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