Hell's Bells

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by peripheral, Oct 16, 2015.

  1. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    to be fair Harry<>Murphy is a quality ship, and I guess they can kiss if they want to, but. have all the other ships been anti'd to death, or??? IF THERE IS AN ANTI-HARRY/THOMAS CAMPAIGN I WILL BE DISPLEASED
     
  2. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    antis hate the dresden files, so they aren't there
    but it seems like all the prominent people FUCKING HATE all other pairings
     
  3. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    I mean, it is Problematic, in that it absolutely Overfloweth with dubcon of various degrees of dubiousness, but I'm surprised that they're avoiding it instead of attempting to nuke it from orbit? otherwise I'd be tempted to think that they're willing to leave us filthy Dubcon-Supporters, aka literal rapists, to our own devices, which is not very anti at all. it's reasonable, for one thing.

    and that's just rude. >:[ seriously? none of them are even like, "yeah sure"? they forbid all other content???

    also, you guys, what do you think is a simple and elegant Thomas Symbol? I'm taking a crack at that T-shirt design. ;D
     
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  4. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    The only time I ventured into the tag on Tumblr I noped out pretty quickly because I saw someone wildly misinterpreting an event in Skin Game and yelling about how terrible it was because they somehow never got something which has been emphasized repeatedly and occasionally been a major plot point since the third freaking book.

    I'm not going to say that Murphy hasn't been mistreated a lot in the last few books, but the fact that she broke Fidelacchius wasn't that she "didn't have enough faith," you dingus. It said it right there in the text in that book, and several times before, that the swords break if used against their purpose, and there have been repeated attempts by baddies to goad the Knights into betraying promises, including their oath to first and foremost attempt to save the Denarians, so they can't punish them if they repent. That's why Sanya and Michael walked out of the room before Harry beat the crap out of Cassius; they couldn't officially be party to hurting a guy who had already given up the coin. Murphy broke the oath of the Knights by attacking a man who renounced the coin and asked for mercy, and Nicodemus says himself that he still thinks it might not have worked if she hadn't said what she did.
     
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  5. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    dresden files is so problematic that they can't bring themselves to read it. they just hang out in their "dresden files critical" tag and bitch about how "omg all the characters are Literal Evilbad Monsters"

    it's mostly passive aggressive snipes about how AWFUL other pairings are >:(

    i vote sparkly hair scissors or something like that
     
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  6. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Nah, from what I've seen antis almost never openly engage with unrepentantly Problematic canons except to talk trash about them from a distance. At least not without it having a lot of something else they really like.
     
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  7. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    yeah this
    dresden files doesn't have the pastel cute aesthetic they crave to cover up their shittiness
     
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  8. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Or a focus on queer romance. I'm pretty sure that's why so many of them jumped on Killing/Stalking.
     
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  9. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    YEP
    because gay people are pure and good, and anything that's not up to those standards is BAD
     
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  10. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    obviously, unrepentently Bad things are, in a way, easily dismissed.
    it's the things that are so close AND YET that dig in and frustrate, the things that almost have what one wants, almost represent one, that are breeding grounds for anti sentiment. it's something like betrayal, a surprise foe where one expected a trusted ally. or to borrow an old christian joke:
    I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump. I ran over and said: "Stop. Don't do it."

    "Why shouldn't I?" he asked.

    "Well, there's so much to live for!"

    "Like what?"

    "Are you religious?"

    He said: "Yes."

    I said: "Me too. Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

    "Christian."

    "Me too. Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

    "Protestant."

    "Me too. Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

    "Baptist."

    "Wow. Me too. Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

    "Baptist Church of God."

    "Me too. Are you original Baptist Church of God, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?"

    "Reformed Baptist Church of God."

    "Me too. Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?"

    He said: "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915."

    I said: "Die, heretic scum," and pushed him off.
     
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  11. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    ah, yes. secondhand bitching about characters they've never actually read about. must be very accurate and productive. and I dare someone to make a reasonable case that Michael is a Literal Evilbad Monster that does NOT include any whining about his inherent privileges. I dare.

    huh. so much for that "preventing fiction from affecting reality" shit, I guess. doesn't work so well when you aren't dogpiling a fancreator, does it, antis? you could possibly be doing something like breaking down what's dubcon and why in the Dresden Files, but that might actually educate and help people, and we don't want that.

    what's up with Killing/Stalking? I haven't been keeping up with anything Tumblr-y lately.

    also @swirlingflight that is. a really good joke oh my god relatable
     
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  12. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    But yeah, it's unapologetically a garbage fire, the fandom isn't prominent on Tumblr or predominantly centralized on Tumblr, the fandom isn't shiny and new so they're not seeing lots of people on their dashes suddenly get into it, and there isn't anything on the garbage fire that's so appealing to them that they feel like they need to rescue it from said garbage fire. So they might occasionally grumble about UGH, those GROSS PEOPLE who interact with that GARBAGE FIRE like ANIMALS, but they're not actually going to go anywhere near it.

    EDIT: Or at least, that'd be my guess. Haven't actually seen any of the complaining people mentioned.
     
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  13. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    actually they just say that he and charity are abusive parents
    because molly ran away that one time
     
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  14. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    M/M horror webcomic about a guy who was stalking another guy who turns out to be a serial killer and kidnaps Guy A and holds him hostage. Very dead dove, and got popular very shortly after the Yuri On Ice season finale with a lot of the same crowd, and the anti crowd threw a collective wobbler about it for a couple of weeks. There's a thread for it somewhere.
     
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  15. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    @emythos fuckin. HELL. "everything Molly does is perfectly reasonable"? is that the party line?? MOLLY'S LIFE IS A SERIES OF QUESTIONABLE DECISIONS, IT'S CALLED "GROWING UP"

    @LadyNighteyes but it's my garbage fire... they're my garbage children... Harry is a fuckin cinnamon roll, fite me, even if he's really, really stale...... DO THEY HATE JOY
     
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  16. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

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  17. emythos

    emythos Lipstick Hoarding Dragon

    nope! they don't like molly either!!!!

    harry is a precious cinnamon roll. just one that's kinda charred.
     
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  18. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    I would have gone with "burnt" rather than stale. And maybe a bit misshapen. :::PPP
     
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  19. esotericPrognosticator

    esotericPrognosticator still really excited about kobolds tbqh

    DAMMIT DIDN'T THINK OF THAT I meant "burnt" he's a slightly aged burnt cinnamon roll with too much icing
     
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  20. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    And sprinkles 'pon it? :::PPP
     
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