Shitposting Rave OOC

jack doesnt really... see it as controlling, i think? he more or less just kind of puts it on the "they like me a lot" shelf, which he's entirely into.

basically his mindset right now though is, "we're in a shoot-off world and i can do whatever the fuck i want to in here, and it wont really hurt me or affect me cause its not real so nothing matters". he's not expecting it to be a long term thing, whether or not because he gets to leave or he ends up getting tired of church, but hes justifying fucking around and being sweet/more lenient than usual because its pointless to do anything else at this point

 

Jordi's heckling is fine for me as me, and I'm having fun, but the hiss is a threat display that basically means 'I would come over there and eat your face if I weren't protecting Marcus'.

Lissa does not like to be sexually harassed (not that anyone else does, but she really has a very low tolerance for that) and if he continues to say very suggestive things to her implying that he thinks she wants him, she may eventually blow up at him.

I feel like I should warn you about this in case you are in the mood to have Jordi heckle someone but not necessarily in the mood to have her take a swipe at him/shred his ears verbally. She's a *bit* calmer since hearing him tell Defalt he doesn't actually want to have sex in the rave because she's figured out that he's trying to taunt her. It's better if she continues to think this!

 

i wouldn't categorize "don't cheat on me" and "i get insecure when you flirt with other people and would really appreciate it if you didn't" (paraphrased) as attempts to control someone, per se. like it definitely could be possessive but... i dunno how to explain what exactly i mean.

 

Speaking personally....

1) It's not "cheating" if you don't have a committed relationship in which you have promised to be monogamous, and (again speaking personally) I would lose my shit if someone decided I was in a committed monogamous relationship with them without discussing that with me first.

2) I do not enter committed monogamous relationships with someone I've known less than a day. (I'm personally leery of both commitment and monogamy; I've done both, but I haven't had it end well yet.)

3) "I get insecure when you flirt..." is a reasonable enough request in a long-term relationship that is monogamous, but it's a ridiculous thing to ask of someone you just met.

4) Being alarmed at being reminded that your partner is not a blushing virgin is also kind of unreasonable if your partner is not actually a teenager young enough that this means someone abused them. I'm okay with dating inexperienced people, but I expect that someone who has dated before has had kissing practise and if they're good at kissing I am grateful for it.

5) If someone's insecure because I flirt the day they meet me, it's my experience that in 6 months they'll be complaining when I put on makeup or dye my hair or wear sexy clothes and I'm not going to stop doing those things.

6) It is also my experience that partners who are that insecure will probably become abusive and that people who freak out about the number of previous partners someone might have are not a good fit for me because I actually stopped counting a really long time ago. It's been a while since I've had sex, I don't feel the need to have it all the time, but if I feel like having it and someone else I find attractive also feels that way, I will do the thing (unless there's a good reason not to). I don't find all that many people attractive, but if I were in an environment where I did, I could give Lissa and Mina a run for their money.

 

i don't think church is the type of guy who perceives any value in a relationship he can't picture being long-term and committed. like, he knows intellectually that other people like short-term stuff and flings but emotionally, he just doesn't get it. short-term stuff and flings just aren't fun for him - well, when he recognizes them as that, anyway. if a relationship turns out to be short-term when he expects it to be long-term, he ends up concluding it failed at being a relationship, that it ended badly. so when jack is flirting with him, he thinks that means jack wants something long-term and committed with him. 'cause "i want something long-term and committed with you" is what it means when church flirts with jack. does that make any sense?

 

Your characterisation is your business! You don't need to defend it. I'm surprised that Church's pathology and Jack's pathology snapped together so neatly, but you can write them however you like! I'm just curious about it.

I have seen a lot of people ruin potential relationships that might have ended up becoming long-term and committed (which doesn't always have to mean monogamous, but in most of these cases, probably would have meant that) by assuming that commitment begins with mutual attraction rather than being a goal one works toward. Most people--even most monogamous people, and I've been in monogamous relationships that were okay for a while, until they weren't, and monogamy wasn't always the problem--want to get to know you before they are willing to commit.

 

yeah. it is a goal, not somewhere that you just arrive at by being attracted to someone.

but the circumstances of church and tex's creation as ais and experiences a while after that, when they started having interactions the alpha actually was allowed to keep remembering, meant they skipped that step and just Were A Thing. no experience of the stage where it's a goal, just bam, so... he assumes that's how it works. mutual attraction and bam, long-term commitment!

 

Also I am having a severe neuropathy flare so if I do sound snappish or short today it's almost certainly not you.

 

Jordi's actually pretty fun to play because while he might lose his shit over the humidity (the horrors!) actual personal interaction tends to roll off him like water off a duck's back. So nw if Lissa does end up taking a swipe at him-- she's made it pretty clear exactly how she feels!

(Though I'm nnnot up to doing any fight-fight stuff so I'd probably have him laugh about it and wake up. An assassin off might be interesting but it does sound exhausting to write :P)

 

Haha no I don't want to write an assassin-off and if it WAS an assassin-off it would come from out of nowhere, because that's how assassin-offs work, right? I'm just talking about how cats will let people annoy them up to a point and then take a swipe if the person keeps missing or ignoring the cues that the cat is annoyed.

 

@unknownanonymous sorry I had to put my phone away because I got to the office but I answered you on discord and now you appear to be offline. Thanks for contacting me, now that I'm at a real keyboard I have other stuff to say that I hope will be useful. *hugs*

 

also someone pls link to the video for the song "detachable penis" either here or with a truly shitposty account in the rave, I'm at work and can't be googling that RN but I feel it's appropriate.

 

wow I leave you lot alone for One Day.

 

Nobody thinks Norm's not paying attention to what his D is interested in. Nobody.

*cracking up over here*

Nobody thinks that about Reverse Ford though, either. That's definitely a team where both brains are in full communication and cooperating to get what they both want and also whatever Lissa wants.

 

what i meant was that norm wasn't sure if jordi would welcome his inclusion in the toast, if jordi meant the toast to be just between him and ford or not, not that he wasn't sure which d-listening category he falls in.

 

I have the feeling that with Jordi everyone is always invited to drink all the time, though I'm not his player. Especially if that means they might provide him with useful information, blackmail material or amusing misbehaviour.

 

but aren't Toasts a different event than Just Plain Drinking? like, socially, you know?

 

also is Defalt really a rat (or dressed like one)? I couldn't decide how Lissa should respond to him so she didn't, being mostly worried about Marcus at the time, but she will eventually say hi.

Lissa is a sapient being and eats her food properly prepared unless she is on the hunt and taking a snack while field dressing, so she doesn't eat rats, but she also wouldn't be shocked if a young kit caught and ate one; you don't send a three-year-old out with a boar spear.

 

If you're in a restaurant it's weird to join in a toast at another table but that's because it's weird to admit you were eavesdropping, when someone makes a toast in a whole room of people it's generally free for everyone.

 

*googles* okay, Defalt is dressed like a rat!