NSFW RP: consent, minors, and other boundaries

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by seebs, Sep 2, 2017.

  1. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Suggestion to have "I am a minor" (I see no need for a speicifc age, Minor is all the information we need here) and/or "I don´t want any sexual Rp whatsoever" to be added to profules and/or signatures of RP accounts.
    This means the main account is not outed and people can know who is or is not a minor.
    Obviously this is not magically foolproof, but it´s something.
     
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  2. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    i promise, if i ever make an 18+ spr, i will name it after this quote
     
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  3. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Wait. Wait a fucking second.
    While that's technically true in that this exact scenario has only happened once, I do seem to recall an impromptu and unrequested "sex ed lesson" about your self-insert OC's anatomy to that minor.
     
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  4. Khan

    Khan why does anyone NOT hate her

    I don't roleplay Internet sex with fourteen-year-olds. That is what I am trying to talk about.

    While we're at it, what is the artistic merit of the thing I described? Do tell.

    Whether or not we're agreed, there is still no policy regarding that, no admin admission that there should be/will be a policy regarding that, no admin admission that there should be/will be an 18+ wall, no admin admission that there should be/will be age verification. I think this is a productive discussion to have.
     
  5. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    :D:D:D:D:D
     
  6. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    If things get nsfw in a thread it can always be moved and the thread continue as normal. I understand this concern and think there are workable middle grounds.
     
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  7. Petra

    Petra space case

    There isn't! Just like your writing has artistic merit and my immortal, as hilarious as it is, does not. We all agreed that's fucked up and none of us wants to do that, though, so I'm not sure why you're painting us as arguing for that.
     
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  8. KingStarscream

    KingStarscream watch_dogs walking advertisement

    +1 to "if minors potentially reading the roleplays is a problem, putting all roleplaying behind a 18+ filter would be the ideal" since DT would already fall under that (and again, is marked all over the place with smut under spoilers.) If that includes all SFW roleplays as well under the guise of potential safety, then I guess that's a thing that can happen? Either way, I'm pretty sure everyone here is sitting in the "I absolutely do not want to write smut with minors" camp.

    If the most effective way to do that is make the entire RP forum 18+ with seperate NSFW tags, then hey. Though on that point, would we want to seperate the RP forum into "freeform text rp" and "tabletop rp"? Because I know there's a few tabletop campaigns that use It's Galley's Turn to organize. (Though, also I think that might be a useful thing regardless? I know I hit on my current campaign by luck of the draw, and it would be nice to have a subforum for organizing tabletops so you don't have to be subscribed to the D&D thread on the off chance someone asks to start up a game in there.)
     
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  9. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    also just to cover all our bases, because I just remembered!
    What about two minors (or more, but no legal adults are involved) having their characters doing the aforementioned fade to black? Like what I want to know is are we limiting what Known Minors are allowed to do or are we merely putting a limit on the interactions between Known Minors and adults?
     
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  10. Khan

    Khan why does anyone NOT hate her

    Artistic merit was one of the parts of the Miller test that I was referencing. I didn't bring it up out of nowhere. That was me attempting to prove that Internet roleplay sex falls under "obscenity" by law. Jury's out on whether I succeeded.
     
  11. Petra

    Petra space case

    Like I'm not getting defensive because people are calling things I do gross, I'm getting defensive because people are implying that this is an extant problem on here and calling people fucking goddamn shitbabies when we go 'where?'.
     
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  12. Mendacity

    Mendacity I’m meaner than my demons

    That's valid but I'm still going to argue that for the safety of everyone involved, including the forum itself, the RP section should be locked behind 18+. At least behind 16+ and then behind 18+ for a NSFW zone if you want to do that, since violence is often RPed or talked about in detail.

    Also legit request like this for there to be a separate tabletop subforum!!!!! That would be SUUUUPER nice.
     
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  13. Petra

    Petra space case

    Right, but like... there's different degrees and contexts of internet roleplay sex*, just like there's different degrees and contexts of sex in published novels? That's what I'm getting hung up on.

    * Even the most sublime and artistic internet roleplay sex should not legally happen with a minor involved, though. They can be sublime and artistic when they're overage.
     
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  14. rigorist

    rigorist On the beach

    Yeah, I looked at 18 U.S.C. § 1470, also available at Cornell. Which is the controlling federal statute and applies to obscenity. And the bop for proving something is obscene lies on the state and must pass the Miller test.

    I would also suspect the CDA would come into play, which would limit liability--if any--to the person who actually rped with the minor and provide a defense to the site itself.

    Finally, this chasing after euphemisms will prove to be a fool's errand. Any term can be made to appear to be a description of sexual intercourse by adding, "If you know what I mean, and I think you do!" to the end. Like, I'm gonna finish this post and then go mow the lawn, if you know what I mean and I think you do!
     
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  15. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    I think that it would be productive to discuss how to ensure that adults do not engage in sexually explicit RP with adults on Kintsugi, too.

    This discussion, however, is not very productive. This discussion is not about "how to ensure that adults do not engage in sexually explicit RP with adults on Kintsugi". That's only one of many topics being discussed. Some of those other topics have a distinct odour of roadapples, grudgewank and purity culture.
     
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  16. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Also if we actually have a NSFW Rp, I would like to request a SFW RP place be made with whatever rules people want.. It seems unfair to ban minors from roleplaying here at all, ever.
     
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  17. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i'm gonna write an elaborate red vs. blue au centered around mark temple, if you know what i mean and i think you do!
     
  18. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    [​IMG]
     
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  19. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    I agree with this, I think that totally excluding kids from sfw rp is going too far, though I see the reasoning behind that stance.
     
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  20. Petra

    Petra space case

    I'm gonna tap out for a little bit to head to the library, see y'all soon!
     
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