NSFW RP: consent, minors, and other boundaries

The rules are there to let people know how the game is played.

If people who don't want to play the way that we play read them and decide not to join, they have done their job, and that's probably best for all concerned.

 

You aren't engaging with the actual POINT. It's FUCKED UP to BAN players from playing one kind of character because it upsets the mod, but then turn around and TELL THEM IN THE RULES THAT IF THEY ARE UNCOMFORTABLE, THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.
"Characters from other dimensions and historical periods may do or think or say things that would be upsetting to a normal person from 21st century Earth (like you, the player). We will keep explicit sexual material off the main threads, and we can spoiler-tag things that are triggering because they're violent upon request; but characters from other times and places are going to do and say things you may find problematic and that's unavoidable"
contrasted with
"My mother has frequent, unpredictable and easily triggered ragesplosions, during which she screams, swears wildly at people, throws and breaks things, and will not respond to reason. We have discovered that I am easily triggered by player characters who do this. WT does not allow them any more (the one we had is growing out of it). The game is not fun for me if I have to deal with that and it's not fun for anyone at all if I lose my shit. Meltdowns are OK, but that particular type of meltdown will fuck me up and then I'll have a meltdown IRL. Nobody likes that, especially me."

AS SAID, TAPPING OUT.

 

I continue to be really not ok with confalting fade to blacks with actual sex scenes, but I give up.

 

Oof I'd offer to gather stuff but iiiit's almost 2am and I should really try to sleep and am a bit too tired to find everythign right now anyways. I think I did have a relatively recent summary post though? Maybe I missed somethign in that but it should be found easily if you use the search function and filter out only my user name heh

 

Uh. That rule was added to WT because one of my characters kept triggering CT super hard and that wasn't fun for anyone. If someone gets triggered by other stuff they can talk to CT about it, just like CT talked to me about Clover.

 

Also, WT isn't the most important rp on Kintsugi, wtf?

 

that's a funny idea, i hadn't thought of that.

the rest of this thread is exactly as bad as i thought it would be when i saw seebs made it and i probably am not gonna end up touching it directly

 

cT and @Jamoche tuned down wendy and maxim's relationship because petra was bothered by it.

 

Yup! And note that I still play Clover, she's just a lot more likely to get derailed before starting up a really big rage explosion. it's not 'you can't play prickly characters', it's a certain type of semi-violent anger explosion that's the problem.

 

I see the problem. You're equating "problematic" with "triggering".

If someone in WT is triggered we always talk about it and do our best to fix it.

Finding something problematic is not the same thing as being triggered.

That rule is there because I want people to understand that you can't have a conversation with some of the characters in WT without something problematic coming out of their mouth. Like any and all of the characters from the Kencyrath series, which is an incredibly violent canon, and the characters who come from it are nice people, but they don't come with good 21st century ethics pre-installed.

 

OT: i don't think minors should read homestuck, let alone rp it

 

I feel like what's missing from the conversation about WT is that a large part of what WT is about is what happens when people from very different cultures have to work together.

There's been a lot of really great RP that came from the cultural clashes. There's an ongoing thing where the troll girls in the Pines household are continually shocked by the fact that the reason the Pines adults want to be involved with their decisions is that they will be held responsible if anything bad happens to them, which is something they find really hard to internalise. The whole concept that they are minors and need guardianship is completely foreign to them.

In general, terrible things that happen in other cultures are reacted to with appropriate horror by the characters who are closer to a 21st century point of view, but one of the main aspects of WT is taking a lot of the dystopic aspects of Gravity Falls that were played for laughs to their logical conclusions plus not whitewashing cultures like Alternia and the Kencyrath. We could not do that if we were promising players that nobody would ever have to read anything that might run counter to 21st-century Western cultural ideals.

Most of the "problematic" content in WT is because there are a lot of people from really violent societies in the game. There was a scene where all the kids between the ages of about 9 and 17 were asked, for purposes of martial arts training, which of them had ever been in a really serious fight--not a schoolyard brawl, but a fight where there was a serious chance they might have been killed. There were only 2 kids there who hadn't been in a fight of that nature: Clover and the littlest girl, Robyn. Because even Dipper and Mabel have, in canon, come close to dying in combat on NUMEROUS occasions. Not to mention Steven Universe. We bring up violence because frankly, it's a much bigger problem than sex with these canons.

 

Fascinating that a discussion of "Maybe the rp forum needs to be more careful about adult/minor sexy play references" slowly shifted to a callout of The Person Who Makes Bad Games.

@IvyLB is the hero of the thread for trying to keep this shitshow on topic.

 

Aww thank you <3
I really do need to sleep though so y'all better not be burning down the thread while Europe is counting sheep, alright? :P

 

What's your point? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely confused. Do you disagree that the RP forum should be careful about adult/minor sexy play references? Are you saying the current topic isn't worth discussing because the OP dislikes someone you agree with? I don't know what you're trying to say.

 

I think the implication is that while the whole 'let's formalize what is and isn't okay to enforce better boundaries and expectations' is important, some of the upset is also based in personal disagreements or stylistic clashes. Which is just people, I think.