policy question!

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by taxonomicAtrocity, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. hey, so is post moderation the policy in tchgb? because i just went to reply to someone in a thread there, and appear to be on moderation, which has not been the case previously. now, i'm not on here super often, so maybe i missed a mention of it being how things are done there now, because it wasn't communicated to me in any other way. here's to hoping we can sort this quickly and cleanly!
     
  2. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Yep. Outside responses by nonparticipants has been an ongoing issue, so the whole subforum is now moderated.
     
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  3. AbsenteeLandlady123

    AbsenteeLandlady123 Chronically screaming

    That honestly seems like a thing that should have been announced in a thread, unless I missed it? If I missed it, my bad. (no blame or anything like that I'm just a little confused)
     
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  4. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    We were a bit swamped at the time and it slipped my mind, sorry about that.
     
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  5. AbsenteeLandlady123

    AbsenteeLandlady123 Chronically screaming

    It okay!
    ~* The more you know *~
     
  6. thanks for getting back to me! i appreciate it. it was a bit concerning to be hit with out of nowhere.
     
  7. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    It's not exactly a change to "policy", so much as "given how much time we're spending cleaning things up and trying to move things and deal with them, what if we just didn't".
     
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  8. Whether it's Policy or "how things are done (or aren't done)," an announcement of "Thing Changed, here's how" would still be appreciated for future stuff like this
     
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  9. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    We do try to do that, yes. Things were a bit hectic when the change was needed and by the time it calmed down it'd been forgotten. Sorry that happens sometimes, thank you for your patience.
     
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  10. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Yup. This is a good idea. We're not trying to outfox you, we're just disorganized.

    Having been on forums where the mods were organized, I am actually not planning to change the level of organization if I can avoid it.
     
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  11. Lerxst

    Lerxst salty parabola

    Maybe you should consider trying a little organization. Just enough to prevent the entire mod team from just ~forgetting~ to announce a major change in the way an entire subforum is moderated.
     
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  12. yes. as someone who has some fairly extensive past trauma shit re: people in authority censoring what i can and cannot say, having postmodding on in a thread of mine with no prior indication or way to tell if it was happening to anyone else was pretty stressful! and while the mod team's certainly not responsible for dealing with my trauma responses, announcing whatever you would most enjoy calling 'policy' before it happens would be a pretty cool thing to aim for, in the future.
     
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  13. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    We do quite a bit of organizing, this is fairly labor intensive and time consuming. We can't promise to never make mistakes.

    If you have any ideas I'm sure we'd be happy to hear them.
     
  14. Lerxst

    Lerxst salty parabola

    Idea: don't forget to announce major procedure changes that could be upsetting to people before you implement them
     
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  15. seychel

    seychel stubbornly

    we're not paying any of their salaries and it doesn't seem like they're getting salaries anyway so maybe we can assume some good faith and standard human error?
     
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  16. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    What do the ~s around "forgetting" signify?
     
  17. Azurite

    Azurite Just Floating

    Telling someone who just apologized "have you tried not making mistakes?" - not even sort of helpful.
     
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  18. Khan

    Khan why does anyone NOT hate her

    A suggestion: in the future, not implementing the thing until after it has been announced. Not “implementing it and then resolving to maybe announce it later.” Announce the thing as proposed policy first, then announce that it is now actual policy, and THEN go about implementing it.
     
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  19. Exohedron

    Exohedron Doesn't like words

    I feel like, but can't actually recall exactly and therefore admit to [citation needed], there have been and will be cases where a decision needs to be made and implemented rather quickly in response to an urgent issue, and then becomes "policy" via not being rolled back once said issue becomes less urgent. And this can happen either by simply forgetting to rollback an emergency measure, or because the mods find it to be a policy that should have been implemented anyway, and they just had all forgotten or not noticed in the heat of the moment that nobody actually told the rest of the forum that it would be policy going forward.
    Not to say that "announce before implementation" isn't a good policy in itself. It's a great policy. It is one of the best policies that I was under the impression the mods had in place already. It should be encouraged by everyone, because this is not the best place for surprises. But there will come times when implementation is on a strict schedule, either because of the problem that the thing being implemented addresses or just because of how other scheduling issues happen to interact, and policy announcements might get lost in the administrative cracks.

    As always, I have no good solutions.


    However, I will suggest that a mention of the policy change show up in TCHGB as well. I don't know if all people read through the meta forum as much as some of us here do, and this seems like the kind of information that should be disseminated at the point of impact rather than requiring folks to come all the way over here.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2017
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  20. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Thank you for your suggestion, I made redirect link in TCHGB.
     
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