Fandom Gripes Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by keltena, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. ZeroEsper

    ZeroEsper Well-Known Member

    Ah, Killing Stalking. The Manwha where the creator EXPLICITLY STATED IN AN INTERVIEW that she didn't want the horrible abuse between the main characters to be portrayed as romantic. Truly problematique.
     
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  2. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    I mean, I’m personally not big on KS, but I don’t know how someone can talk about how it’s so disgusting and horrible and then turn around and talk about how great Devilman Crybaby is

    like, the plot of Devilman is DEMON GORE MURDER BLOOD DEATH (the original manga and anime don’t actually have explicit sex scenes but Crybaby does) and it’s not quite explicitly gay, but enough so that you’d expect people to jump down your throat for shipping the two main male characters cause ABYOOSE

    like, someone virulently hating (not disliking, but hating) KS but loving Devilman makes no sense to me
     
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  3. Saro

    Saro Where is wizard hut

    pfffft i watched that because i read the manga a while ago and was very curious about what mental gymnastics people would go to in order to justify liking it to themselves/others

    (mostly i just couldn't get over how goofy the animation was sometimes)
     
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  4. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    The ridiculously popular "just melt down some Galleons and you'll be a millionaire!" post going around Potter fandom. What the fuck is making anyone think Galleons are pure gold? Gold is a horrible metal to make coins out of because coins have to keep their shape to prevent forgery and gold is really soft, and UK currency refers to 5p and 50p pieces as silver but they sure as hell aren't actual solid silver!

    Related, the weird insistence that Hogwarts is a fee-paying school. It isn't, or how the hell would the Weasley kids get in?
     
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  5. context-free anon

    context-free anon Well-Known Member

    i was under the impression that the coins were canonically confirmed to be pure gold and silver, but i might be wrong. the 45:1 ratio they quote is based on the same weight of gold and silver, but if they're anything like real life coins then they're gonna be a different size and shape and thus have different amounts of metal.

    also their argument is invalid because they got it from HPMoR.
     
  6. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    People like to feel like they've "outsmarted" their fiction somehow, especially if it's something that's been around for a while and the idealization has worn off

    see: the existence of "rational!fic", youtubers discussing video game plotholes in meticulous detail, those godawful "THE MAIN CHARACTER HAS BEEN IN A COMA THIS WHOLE TIME" theories, my blog where i bag on Naruto constantly
     
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  7. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    And that's assuming that the Goblins, who would absolutely leave someone locked in a vault alone for a decade, wouldn't put enchantments and curses on all their currency to prevent this sort of thing.
     
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  8. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Coma "theories" could be fun if there was some kind of actual story made out of them rather than "haha magic don exits"; see Sucker Punch and YU+ME Dream.

    Plus gold coins, even if you could find enough gold to make them, would be a stupid idea because they would cost hundreds of pounds more than their actual spending power, and they would rip through everyone's pockets because gold is HEAVY. There's a scene in the silly fantasy novel Spellsinger where the hero wins a bunch of gold in gambling, and the thieves he's hanging out with tell him to sew the gold into the edge of his cloak, because a) then other thieves can't find it, b) it weighs it down so it doesn't blow about in the wind, and c) it makes for a good makeshift bolas because that much gold weighs enough to literally beat people to death with.

    Okay, who wants to write a Methods of Rationality where the Methods in question don't work because magic does work and wizards aren't stupid?
     
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  9. artistformerlyknownasdave

    artistformerlyknownasdave revenge of ricky schrödinger

    i mean, while i agree that solid gold coins are impractical in a harry potter setting, solid gold coins...aren’t a fantasy invention?

    they have a lot of historical uses, so they’re not so impractical as to make the mere concept unrealistic. gold’s softness was actually a bonus—you could bite the coin, and if it left a mark you could tell it was real gold. it holding its shape didn’t matter quite so much because the material held intrinsic value. it’s really only in recent history we’ve stopped using gold coins as a primary currency, and we managed to keep them from ripping through our pockets for that long.
     
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  10. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    Oh THAT'S why pirates and thieves guild types were always biting gold.
     
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  11. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    I'm guessing at that time one wouldn't be carrying a lot of them at once. I recall Harry stuffs his pockets with Galleons on at least one occasion, which would certainly be inconvenient to carry.
     
  12. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    Maybe the minting process charms them to negate the weight somehow
     
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  13. Saro

    Saro Where is wizard hut

    May I offer a convenient explanation: weight-reduction charm inherent to the coins, implemented during their minting.

    Eta lol we had the same thought
     
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  14. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Still, I stand by my statement that there simply isn't enough gold on Earth to make an entire modern economy's worth of large coins that are the equivalent of £5 each plus all the Muggle stuff which still exists plus the fancy magical artefacts made of gold that we see, and I'm pretty sure it's stated that it's not possible to make gold from nothing with magic.
     
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  15. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    Rowling:

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. KarrinBlue

    KarrinBlue Magical Girl Intern

    i mean why wouldn't you just set up the minting process so that, 1, all the raw materials are magically marked as being Gringotts Quality Gold (such that, should someone forge their own coins, they would also need to be able to precisely recreate that magical signature, and so that if anyone tries to sell the goblins the raw gold they can go 'hang on this is ours') and 2, all coins are cursed REALLY nastily so that trying to melt one down gives you, idk, painful hives that are also full of really angry bees that come out the second you try antihistamines or the local magical equivalent, and also sets off a giant HEY THERE'S A GUY TRYING TO MESS WITH THE ECONOMY RIGHT HERE summoning spell.
     
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  17. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Would work with their known modus operandi!
     
  18. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Also, I should point out that some real-world coins are already at a lower face value than the cost of their metal content. And it's, you know, illegal to melt them down.
     
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  19. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    The deterent curses certainly seem in keeping with wizarding britain security measures in general, especially the tagging would be con men part.
     
  20. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    veteranmortal on Tumblr puts it pretty awesomely:
    Yeah, definitely in need of MoR spitefics. I couldn't get through more than a page of it, anyone else up to the task?
     
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