The Xenforo "Discourage" Feature

Anyway, I should point out one thing other people didn't seem to have noticed:
This has been done to other people.
Are we just going to assume they were all exactly as bad or harmful as me?

 

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Um. EU citizen, remember?

 

So... You had choices which all had the possibility of making me escalate, and you picked the one that made it most likely?
And I am at fault for this? seebs, I have been asking you to do that sort of things for a year. I don't do escalation when faced with sanctions anymore, unless I think the sanction isn't fair. Not telling me about it inherently makes it unfair.

 

No. I mean seebs is legally mandated to delete my data if I request it.

 

no but mostly because i dont find it plausible for there to be many people people as harmful as you can be when you want to

 

Okay, great.
So, all these people, who Weren't As Bad As Me, have also gotten this. Presumably also without any communication on seebs's part. If I'm wrong, that is, none of them were informed of it, seebs is welcome to correct me.

 

Also, I just checked.
This has not been going on for "weeks". The threats were from May 10th, less than a week ago. They were also strictly limited to two Caring Void posts.
On the 12th was a breakdown on seebs's Discord.
Those are the two times I have directly threatened seebs until this shitshow, which was triggered by the Caring Void posts being retroactively deemed unacceptable and wiggled.
But I actually suspect seebs includes "complaining about their issues to other people on side channels" as abuse. Which is... Surprisingly realistic.

 

THIS IS NOT ABOUT SEEBS.
There, I hope it's visible enough now. Well, now it's about seebs, but that's exclusively because this bullshit in the first page happened.

So, I will reiterate my point:
The use of the discouragement feature without communication, in general, for anyone, is something I consider to be a massive breach of the trust that you maintain on how users are informed of moderation measures taken against them. Besides, this feels a lot like a punishment, for someone who brags about never doing that in their moderation.
Without communication, it is also a really useful gaslighting tool. I can attest to that, having had several users such as @Aondeug tell me I was just being paranoid.

On Discord, I requested something from seebs. It was a public apology for doing this, also containing a list of all users this has ever been used on, and assurance that it will not happen again. I got the last one, at least.

 

No: seebs said the two spambots were currently in that list as probably a quirk of the way XenForo implements bans. They have admitted, on Discord and in this thread, to having used it on actual users in the past.

 

stop trying to make this about seebs.

 

seebs is the admin, and thus can use the discourage feature. It is "about seebs" in that way, but please see my post above.

 

you were threatening to murder people.

 

Thank you for responding, seebs. I appreciate the apology (... I guess) on the mixup.
That being said:

As you said, you have used it to "maybe one or two people" in the past. You only mention this feature now that I publicly bring it up.
Now, honest question: if I didn't notice, would you have told me?

That's fine. But it's also not what I'm talking about.
Come on, seebs, you're not the kind of person who usually does that. Like, if Hitler's ghost gave you a detailed explanation with concrete evidence proving that you shouldn't shake babies, you're one of the few people who wouldn't decide to vigorously shake every baby they met.

 

an hour ago?

omfg, that's awful!