The Xenforo "Discourage" Feature

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by palindromordnilap, May 14, 2018.

  1. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Where?
    Like, legit where? I don't remember this, and historically this in no way means I didn't do it.
     
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  2. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Oh, nevermind, found it.
    But please stay on topic: this is about the XenForo discourage feature.
     
  3. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

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  4. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    it's about ethics in gaming journalism.
     
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  5. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    What's the name of the thread?
     
  6. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    the kintsugi discourage feature is not more important than death threats, palin.
     
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  7. TheMockingCrows

    TheMockingCrows Resident Bisexual Lich

    alix i think it's kind of going without saying that most people are going to care less about a feature that's now no longer gonna be implemented than about someone making threats of harm against people. again. like.. i don't care in the slightest. this is bullshit, my dude.
     
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  8. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    You can make a thread about my death threats.
    This thread is about the XenForo discourage feature.
     
  9. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    To clarify: I am planning an apology for all of this.
    But first, we're going to discuss exactly how fucked up the discourage feature is when used without communication on Kintsugi.
     
  10. strictly quadrilateral

    strictly quadrilateral alive, alive, alive!

    May 14, in Seebs' discord:
    [11:16 AM] palindromordnilap: Chat poll!
    [11:16 AM] palindromordnilap: What should I do to seebs once I manage to get to them IRL?
    [11:16 AM] palindromordnilap: Like, clearly murder isn't appropriate here
    [11:16 AM] palindromordnilap: But IDK what would be appropriately disabling.
    [11:18 AM] Knife Centipede: just talking to you when you're splitting, which results in rapid brain cell loss, is enough
    [11:18 AM] palindromordnilap: Very funny.
    [11:18 AM] palindromordnilap: I'm considering a Ramset.
    [one unrelated line removed]
    [11:19 AM] palindromordnilap: So, hmm.
    [11:20 AM] palindromordnilap: Cognitive or motor abilities?
    [three unrelated lines removed]
    [11:25 AM] palindromordnilap: Then again, I don't want Jesse, Barb or Nick to get injured too, so the whole thing is a bit logistically fucky.

    Saturday, in Seebs' discord:
    10:31 AM] palindromordnilap: Oh, seebs
    [10:32 AM] palindromordnilap: You might want to prepare a less-than-30-seconds pitch on why I shouldn't kill you
    [10:32 AM] palindromordnilap: Just in case
    [10:33 AM] palindromordnilap: And no, I'm not better than this(edited)
    [10:33 AM] palindromordnilap: You know just how awful I can be
    [10:33 AM] palindromordnilap: And I regret it might have to come down to this
    [10:33 AM] palindromordnilap: And I'd be sad for Jesse, Nick and Barb, and everyone else you pulled into your bullshit

    Saturday, in PMs:
    [12:46 PM] palindromordnilap: Oh hey, do you think letting me upload images again would be okay now? It's okay to say no, to clarify
    Also grim wants to make me a mod
    [12:46 PM] knife moth: no
    [12:46 PM] palindromordnilap: I guess I am probably kinda freaking out too much right now
    [12:46 PM] knife moth: yup
    [12:46 PM] palindromordnilap: to clarify, does that also apply to the mod thing, or
    [12:46 PM] palindromordnilap: :p
    [12:47 PM] knife moth: it applies to both things
    [12:47 PM] knife moth: i am not making you a mod
    [12:47 PM] palindromordnilap: But the drama would be glorious! (Okay but seriously though, I know, both grim and I were joking about it)
    [12:51 PM] knife moth: i know
    [12:51 PM] palindromordnilap: You're probably not really in the mood for joking right now Sorry
    [12:51 PM] knife moth: anyway i would prefer that if you kill me you do it directly and not as collateral damage
    [12:51 PM] knife moth: thats a genuine preference btw
    [12:51 PM] knife moth: ceteris paribus id prefer not to die tho

    Yesterday, in Seebs' discord:
    [12:05 AM] palindromordnilap: Anyway, what caused the wiggling was me going "Oh shit, turns out I'm gonna have to kill Nick too, that's gonna suck" Which got parsed as a Horrifying Threat.

    Yesterday, in PMs:
    [2:13 AM] palindromordnilap: You don't deserve any of this. You should be living with your bioparents right now.
    [2:14 AM] palindromordnilap: In fact, I'm considering fixing my English pronunciation so I can call Minnesota APS about that couple in Northfield hosting a disabled young adult and not providing adequate care for her.
    [2:15 AM] palindromordnilap: "They're telling her you need to eat more to lose weight!" Thank you for that one, Jesse. Might be true but phrased that way it just sounds horrifying enough for a social worker to get worried.
    [2:17 AM] palindromordnilap:
    The Minnesota Adult Abuse Reporting Center (MAARC) provides a toll-free number, 1-844-880-1574, the general public can call to report suspected maltreatment of vulnerable adults.
    Yeah, too bad I have an awful accent.

    Today, in the Kintsugi discord:
    [10:09 AM] palindromordnilap: I have only threatened two people, one of which because I misunderstood something they said and thought they were asking me to threaten them too if I was going to threaten the other person. The "seven so far" refers to "generally directed abuse", that is, "panicked about not feeling safe anywhere I could conceivably vent and sending one (1) message of hate to each of my friends to make them understand how I felt".
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2018
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  11. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Nick, I appreciate the record but this content could be triggering as hell and I think it would be good if you could put it under a spoiler, please.
     
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  12. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    jesus

    that's so fucking fucked up

    the death threats!

    and your bioparents are horrible, nick, and i'm glad you're living with seebs, jesse and barb. palin's way out of line making that threat and i'll be fucking pissed if she actually goes through with it.
     
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  13. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    you made death threats so you've lost the privilege to control the conversation.
     
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  14. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Nah. We had that discussion already, Seebs resolved not to use it anymore due to the thoughtful contribution of other forum members.

    Please feel free to discuss the issues that actually led to the use of the discourage feature in this instance.
     
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  15. TheMockingCrows

    TheMockingCrows Resident Bisexual Lich

    what in the world could you say at this point? i just. what?
    "I'll get to why I'm sorry for repeatedly threatening you and others' well being BUT THIS PAUSE BUTTON EFFECT WAS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE AND THUS MORE IMPORTANT."
     
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  16. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    Your current behaviour is undermining any arguments about use of the discourage feature.
     
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  17. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    palin's current behaviour is making me think seebs should introduce banning for extreme cases like these, actually

    like, when an user has harassed people for years (?), and threatened people with various kinds of shit
     
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  18. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    If you didn't notice: No.
    If you noticed, but just asked privately: Yes.
     
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  19. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Well, to be fair, she hasn't been able to actually harass these people on the forums due to post mod and wiggling. Those structures are working pretty well. She was harassing people in the Seebs discord chat, which she has now been banned from due to her behavior and discord's lack of anything like post mod.
     
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  20. Codeless

    Codeless Cheshire Cat

    I continue to not be a fan of banning, and my post is not expressing support for it or even the discourage feature.
    I was just pointing out a fact. (That doesnt mean Im even a little bit ok with what palin has been doing, but I want to be clear about my actual stance.)

    That said, this is not about the discourage feature anymore. Seebs already said theyd not likely use it again, and we can discuss it once the forum fire has died.
     
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