r/fatlogic derail

Discussion in 'General Advice' started by Athol Magarac, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    By the way, I should point out that there are no legal restrictions to someone calling themselves a nutritionist in the US - it can be okay if they're also a doctor, but otherwise, dieticians (a quick Google search specifically mentions "Registered Dieticians") are probably more trustworthy.
     
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  2. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    <pedantic correction>Animals don't have cell walls. However, every known life form has a cell membrane, and diglycerides aren't just "part of" that- they're the primary component. Specifically, phospholipids, which are diglycerides with a phosphate stuck to the glycerin, making one end of the molecule charged (and thus attractive to water) and the other end a hydrocarbon that water has no interest in. A cell membrane is primarily composed of what's called a phospholipid bilayer, with two layers of phospholipids arranged so the phosphate heads are outside and the fatty acid tails are inside. This makes a barrier that doesn't let water or charged particles through except where proteins are embedded in the membrane as channels, because they'd have to pass through the hydrophobic interior of the membrane.</pedantic>
     
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  3. Saro

    Saro Where is wizard hut

    Bread is super easy to make. Yeast*, water, flour, salt, maybe sugar, time, and heat. There are extremely hands-off bread recipes that involve no/minimal kneading and very little prep (although they have a long rise, sometimes 24+ hours, to compensate, so you have to plan your baking). You can also get peanut/other nut/seed/bean butters ground fresh at various stores, like co-ops or maybe even something like Whole Foods (unsure, we never go to Whole Foods). Ice cream is simple to make even without an ice cream maker if you have ice, salt, ziplock bags, ice cream ingredients, and the will to shake a bag of ice+salt with another bag of cream + sugar + flavoring inside it.

    I'm a biological sciences PhD student, so I have access to a pretty large database of scientific articles that probably most people don't. I can't really find anything (on Web of Science, one of the largest databases of journal articles, books, etc.) in terms of peer-reviewed journal articles suggesting that added diglycerides have negative effects on human health, and a recent review (2017) suggests that most people are getting very small doses of seven of the most common emulsifiers, and at levels that are unlikely to impact the health of the people getting those doses. This is a study in the USA as well, so generally people with easy access to lots of "processed" food. I don't think that avoiding added diglycerides in food is going to have much, if any, effect. (The obvious caveats that I could be wrong, but based on the science we have now....) It sounds like you're finding articles that begin with a bias against "additives" as a whole group, regardless of additive identity and actual scientific research behind them.

    * You don't even necessarily need yeast, according to some people; you can make a starter by mixing flour and water and letting it sit out to collect and grow stuff from the air. Personally, I prefer using active dry yeast because it's way easier and yeast is cheap and keeps for a long time.
     
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  4. ChelG

    ChelG Well-Known Member

    Shit, I mixed the two up. In fairness, it's been years since I studied cell biology. Either way, they're not avoidable.
     
  5. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Also, baking bread is made much easier with a slow cooker: it turns out the "high" setting is precisely the temperature the core of the bread needs to reach, baking takes about two hours, and the dough rises while it's cooking.
     
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  6. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    who needs yeast when you have baking soda
     
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  7. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    You know this really isn't going to help you get off anyone's shit list.
     
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  8. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Not a huge fan of ostracizing people and neither is Kintsugi's staff.
     
  9. haha no

    haha no New Member

    its not ostracism for a person to want you to not interact with them when they've asked you not to over and over
     
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  10. Petra

    Petra space case

    Was that a threat, dude? Nobody is obligated to talk to and help Greallan. Plenty of people are doing so anyway even if they're frustrated. You don't get to preach.
     
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  11. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    This isn't ostracization. This is me asking you again to not fucking interact with my shit. This is me being fucking pissed that you will not submit to that one simple fucking request. This is me pointing that not simply doing so is not helping you and it is certainly not getting me anywhere into a place where I feel like interacting with you.

    Stop. Touching. My. Shit. You can read whatever the fuck you want, you can even vague about me in your fucking thread or even insult me by name in it. I do not care. Just don't touch my stuff directly.
     
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  12. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Okay. It seems I failed to parse "no interaction ever, anywhere, in any thread on any forum". Can I get a list of all your subaccounts, and a list of people with similar requests? Because it is extremely hard to keep track of who hates me.
     
  13. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    I think we're establishing that I'm an amazingly poor judge of character.

    Thanks. I had forgotten which one was "might as well trust a yahoo on the internet because that's where they got their training."
     
  14. devils-avocado

    devils-avocado tired and gay

    who is this being addressed to, I am confused
     
  15. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

  16. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    What's going on here? Can @palindromordnilap not comment on a thread that you decided to participate in? If I had ownership of this thread, I'd prefer Pal to Aon.
     
  17. devils-avocado

    devils-avocado tired and gay

  18. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    aon is saying, i believe, that palin is not allowed to quote, reply to, or react to aon's posts, or send aon private messages 'cause that would violate aon's boundaries.

    palin is allowed to comment in this thread and quote, reply to, react to, and/or send private messages to some of the other people in the thread but palin is not allowed to directly interact with aon.
     
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  19. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Temple's got it right. That is all I am saying, yes.
     
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  20. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i'm glad that i got it right. :D
     
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