Steven Universe

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Wiwaxia, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    So they arrived pretty quickly and went for an immediate landing... and, almost as soon as they landed, they heard the cheers of that very color-coordinated crowd.

    I'm just not sure what's more plausible / alarming:
    Did that many gems convene and organize by color on the very short notice of seeing the ship incoming?

    Did Homeworld receive notice of the ship's activation, and know 'Pink' was around that long... in which case, did they know anything else?

    Were all those gems (including the conspicuous quadrant of pink) just. There. This whole time. Because they'd been arrayed before the "shattering" and no one permitted them new orders?

    ...Did White know all along, and just let the others believe in the shattering, an "indulgent" and "loving" gesture of lenience... to let Pink hurt her sister-Diamonds and regret it and be properly chastised into doing as White told her?
     
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  2. rats

    rats 21 Bright Forge Shatters The Void

    GOOD POST OP
    hello! spoilers for “Legs from Here to Homeworld” incoming

    so the visual parallel between Evil Wedding Connie (generated by Rose’s room in the episode Open Book) and White Diamond’s Pearl have been mentioned in this post. But I think it goes quite a bit further.

    (The visual parallels are seen in the missing eye, white-based color scheme, and the round hair/accessories on the sides of the head.)

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    We know that Pearls are physically incapable of refusing an order from their designated Diamond, both because of CG Pearl’s inability to tell Steven that Rose is Pink Diamond, and because of later word of god.

    It’s also worth mentioning that there’s a bit of the art book that has this photo in it, which seems to say, “A new, sensible Pearl is custom delivered to Pink.” This, in addition to White Pearl’s outfit being so similar to Pink Diamond’s, seems to suggest that WD and PD exchanged Pearls at some point. In fact, their pearls have their gemstones in the opposite locations. And! CG Pearl was the only one of the group to actually have something to say about WD when Yellow and Blue brought her up, which was “she’s not like us.” Perhaps this was from personal experience?

    Here’s another odd thing: White Pearl isn’t voice by Deedee (the usual VA for Pearls–gems of the same type generally have the same VA). Instead, she’s voiced by White Diamond’s VA, and she mimics WD’s pose as well. People have suggested that White Diamond might literally be controlling her, that her broken eye might be symbolically indicative of a lobotomy. I agree!

    But why would that be the case, you ask? What could have necessitated White Pearl’s sense of self being so completely and utterly destroyed and taken over?

    GLAD YOU ASKED! BECAUSE THAT’S THE POINT OF THIS POST!!

    Let’s take a step back to the episode Open Book. In this episode, Connie and Steven enter Rose’s Room, where everything is made to match Steven’s will. That on its own is an interesting parallel to how Pearls act towards their Diamonds, not even thinking about things unless ordered to.

    In Open Book, Connie gets replaced with Fake Connie, who Steven thinks is the real person for a while. But she refuses to make her own decisions, instead deferring to Steven for everything. Eventually, he says, “I don’t want you to just do what I want!” which sends her into some sort of contradictory logic loop. She gets confused and starts saying “I want what you want what you want want want want…”

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    Steven gets spooked and makes everything fake in the room disappear. Fake Connie refuses to vanish, though. When Steven asks why, she says, “You told me not to do what you wanted.” She then chases Steven around against his will, appears in the wedding outfit (as seen above), and fights against him and real Connie. (She disappears when Steven admits something to Connie, but I think this is more relevant to the episode’s moral than the symbolism I’m addressing.)

    So why was Pink’s original Pearl given to White and brainwashed? Because Pink Diamond did to her what Steven did to Fake Connie!

    In Now We’re Only Falling Apart, CG Pearl says “I was given to Pink Diamond just a few thousand years before she was given the Earth. I was supposed to make her happy, I just… never could.”

    Then, in the flashback, Pink Diamond tries to make casual conversation, and Pearl responds robotically & respectfully. Pink frowns at this.

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    But she doesn’t directly try to make her stop, just looks a little upset and continues working.

    So the idea is this: Pink Diamond was casual and fun with her original Pearl, but eventually went too far and made a direct order akin to “Don’t follow my orders,” which broke that Pearl’s mind and had her act traitorously. Then, perhaps at some request of PD’s that the Pearl not be shattered, WD took her and brainwashed her into being nothing but a puppet. Pink must have been upset by this whole thing, thus White’s Pearl being given to Pink to “make her happy.”

    That’s what I’m thinking, anyway! Do you guys have any thoughts?
     
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  3. swirlingflight

    swirlingflight inane analysis and story spinning is my passion

    It makes sense in a couple ways.
    Physically, stuff like her gem placement, and the way WP's sidebuns look like white roses.

    Characterization-wise, for Pink to have messed up like that (and Steven later echo her in a human-centric episode) makes sense. It fits the way the other diamonds treated Pink like an irresponsible child, if she'd gone and broken a Pearl... and it would help explain why Rose considered herself not-a-person, incapable of fundamental growth or change, if on some level she still thought of all gems as being like the one she'd tried to force to change.
     
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  4. Verily

    Verily surprised Xue Yang peddler

    Well I suppose that’s an answer to what a human could do for Rose that no one else could do. He can say no.
     
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  5. LumiLapin

    LumiLapin Bad Bad Bun

    This is fucking perfect
     
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  6. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    Im messing around with the gemsona maker in the middle of the night - does anyone know how to get the code for your made doll?
     
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  7. “The” Gemsona maker?
     
  8. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    probably this one
     
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  9. You guys can thank @Acey for this one

    My Little Rosey~
    Mom used to wonder ‘bout humanity
    My Little Rosey~
    Until one day she died and then became me!
    Big adventures, giant girls!
    Collecting gem shards, saving the world
    Gaining allies, it’s an easy feat
    And friendship makes it all complete!
    My Little Rosey~
    Did you know Mom was really Pink Dia-mond~
     
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  10. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    you’re welcome for the inspiration, horsemethyst invites beautiful things
     
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  11. Verily

    Verily surprised Xue Yang peddler

    I’m sure I’m not the first person who thought of this but. I was listening to What Can I Do for You again and I just realized. That wasn’t Rainbow Quartz. That wasn’t anything quartz. What was that.

    What is Smoky Quartz.
     
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  12. Paradigm Shift

    Paradigm Shift Sleepy Girl Wants Love

    SMOKY D
     
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  13. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    Is it true that some folk really hate yellow/blue diamond as a ship because it's supposedly incestuous? I've just heard this a lot on tumblr and I'm baffled????
     
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  14. Nobody's Home

    Nobody's Home I'm a Greg Coded Tom Girl

    I would think ppl actually believe that even if like,,, gems arent blood related in any way.

    and sure ppl can HC some familial but theyre overreaching their HCs whoops

    Its an odd phenomenon and also I think its because antis
     
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  15. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    They're non-binary intelligent rocks that can't breed in the human way. The only thing with incest that I see wrong is that inbreeding makes harmful recessive mutations actually express themselves. (I believe in out-breeding for dogs.) The psychological aspects were probably a product of darwinism, which wouldn't apply to gems even if blue and yellow were somehow raised as siblings. Ruby was fused with other Rubies that probably came from the same garden.
     
  16. PotteryWalrus

    PotteryWalrus halfway hideous and halfway sweet

    Yeah, and Ruby's probably a lot closer geology-wise (or for idiot thought process 'genetically' ) to other rubies than Blue and Yellow are to each other - they're not even the same cut, never mind colour! It's like shipping Jasper and CG Amethyst together, or Skinny and Carnelian.

    Even if gems of the same type can refer to each other as sister, that in no way denotes a genetic relation on the same level as biological lifeforms. Hell, not even then - Alternian Trolls are technically all hatchmate/siblings, and I've never seen anyone cry incest on those! (Except for maybe dancestor pairings, and that's a whole nother thing)
     
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  17. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    ... Now that I think about it, a ruby is essentially a red sapphire, isn't it.
     
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  18. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    Unrelated, but today is Steven’s canon birthday! HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVEN
     
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  19. Rupphire is officially a Bad Ship now, pls stop crewniverse (joking)
     
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  20. Acey

    Acey hand extended, waiting for a shake

    I mean, I've seen people complain about literally every common ship. Like...I legit saw someone argue, seemingly unironically, that Jam Buds was pedophilia because Steven is a year and change older than Connie. And I've seen people claiming Rupphire is a bad ship too. So yeah, unsurprised that there's Discourse about Bellow.
     
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