Fandom Gripes Thread

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by keltena, Feb 6, 2017.

  1. aetherGeologist

    aetherGeologist Well-Known Member

    Especially annoying when people do this to canonically bi characters.
    (Which they always, always do)
     
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  2. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    man, people who try and make their ships a statement or something are the worst.

    the other day i was looking at the tumblr tag for i think Tsuyu/Bakugou, cause an Iida/Izuku fic i read had it as a side pairing and i thought it seemed kinda interesting, and among the scant handful of content was this one post that was all "it's funny how all BNHA's het ships are based on nothing and all the gay ships are so obvious and based on actual interactions and shit, isn't it so funny (how homophobic y'all are)!!" and it's like, fuck entirely off. I also ship Bakugou/Tokoyami and Izuku/Kirishima based on fucking nothing 'cept their personalities and the fact that they live in the same building and shit, so it's not hard to imagine them getting closer than they currently are in canon. Turns out I can just sorta do that what with my imagination, and it's like fun! It had also tagged Kacchako and TodoMomo, which are both pairs whose interactions spurred character growth in at least one party, so there's actual basis to those even if you'd rather not acknowledge it.
     
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  3. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    biphobia is the most progressive way to fandom dontcha know
     
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  4. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    i've just started watching camp camp and i literally can't understand why it has antis. like, come the fuck on, antis, the canon itself has jokes about csa and kids being exposed to sex and kids using adult language and kids knowing how sex works!

    it is not a clean, pg canon, and it is not where you should go if you absolutely hate to think about minors in connection to sex!

    so far, there aren't any kids in sexual/romantic relationships with adults in it but it's went close enough to really make me wonder how the hell antis ended up liking the fandom so much.

    and david is not max's dad at all, camp camp fandom!

    their relationship strikes me more as an antagonistic one, in which david is incompetent and max absolutely refuses to accept his authority and max sometimes gets one up over him. it is not a parental relationship and if it was one, it would not be the healthy, sterilized, pure, safe one i see the antis talking about sometimes.

    and i think maxvid is an awesome dynamic for shipping purposes! :D:D:D
     
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  5. tinyhydra

    tinyhydra a dingus

    has David and the other camp counselor stand in for Max's parents at a parent meet up day, cause Max's folks don't show up, and they all have a sorta touching little, "hey, we love you, kiddo" moment. I haven't watched Camp Camp in a while, and haven't watched past season 2, but the "David as Max's substitute dad" dynamic is one that does show up in canon.

    I'm almost certain it came up in fandom stuff long before that episode, but.
     
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  6. artistformerlyknownasdave

    artistformerlyknownasdave revenge of ricky schrödinger

    i don't like the parental dynamic either (personally, i think of david more as....akin to an older brother babysitting and not really knowing what to do) but when you get to the s1 and s2 finales, that read makes a lot more sense.
    david isn't nearly as incompetent as he acts, for sure.
     
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  7. unknownanonymous

    unknownanonymous i am inimitable, i am an original|18+

    huh.

    i'm on episode 10 so that hasn't came up yet.

    and i'm not sure how well that will work for me when it does, lol. but i'm going to find out!
     
  8. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    'I want video games to be considered art!'

    -some woman makes a feminist analysis of some game people like and writes an essay about it-

    'NO NOT LIKE THAT.'

    you can't have it both ways, dudes. either you are accepted as valid art and thus up to the auspices of analytical frameworks or you aren't art and have nothing worthwhile to say.
     
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  9. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Also the fact that the only decent place to talk about fow is the subreddit is depressing. I love the subreddit. A lot. It's great and lovely. But I wish I was able to like use the facebook group or the discord but I can't because they're full of assholes who constantly whine and who constantly tear down new players. And neither has a moderation team willing to ban the problem members, of which it is a select few.

    Ban the motherfucker. There is no reason that the fucking discord for a cardgame should be so unwelcoming to new players. A new player who wants to try out a ruler that isn't competitive material should not be told that the ruler is unplayable trash and be insulted when they attempt to make reads on cards. The two doing this should've been banned fucking ages ago.
     
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  10. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Tangentially related toxicity in western gaming spheres: If you call Narcissa Wright cosmo and only use 'he/him/his' for her then you're a prick. Same goes for not respecting proto's pronouns. I do not care what you think of them as people, have the bare decency to respect people's pronouns.
     
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  11. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Furry fandom's occasional bouts of puritan outrage continue to be largely homophobic. And we really need to cut it out.
     
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  12. knifecentipede

    knifecentipede guillotine-chan

    @Aondeug not to be respectability politics but I feel that both left-wing and right-wing furries really should take a moment to remember they're furries before going on the internet and calling other people degenerate
     
  13. context-free anon

    context-free anon Well-Known Member

    respectability pawlitics :3c
     
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  14. palindromordnilap

    palindromordnilap Well-Known Member

    Once every few years, some people try to start a movement to get rid of porn and Degeneracy(tm) in the furry fandom. It's always pretty funny.
     
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  15. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    I don’t mind the pr0n, I just wish the majority of the fandom wasn’t geared around it tbqh

    and for furry fandom to not be inextricably linked with sex in the minds of the internet using public. but that’ll literally never happen.
     
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  16. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    So long as you aren't harassing people or bitching about how people who do like the porn are gross fucking weirdos you're not what I'm complaining about. What I am complaining about are groups like the Burned Furs or people who spend time openly bitching about how furs who like the porn are fucking weirdos who need to stop being fucking horny weirdos.
     
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  17. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    Basically I want to exist happily without being reminded of how the fact that I have a libido makes me a fucking gross piece of shit who is RUINING EVERYTHING for us decent NORMAL furs.

    I don't have time for that shit in the general queer community and I definitely do not have time for it here.
     
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  18. Birdy

    Birdy so long

    yeah i figured. it was a gripe of my own, more like.

    i'm kind of sad there isn't more of a niche for writing in the fandom at the moment. i'm interested in xenofiction and speculative biology, but that's a world largely separate from the furry one. "orthodox" furry fandom is mostly about visual art. and porn.
     
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  19. Aondeug

    Aondeug Cringe Annoying Ass Female Lobster

    OH MY GOD YES.

    I really wish we wrote more. Like. A lot more. I was so disheartened when I saw how little furries write. I love the visual art! A lot! I love the porn a lot too! But I wish we wrote more. There's things prose and poetry can do marvelously that comics can't really. Just like how they can't tell stories with the exact same tricks as a comic can. There's unique joys to be had in them but we just...don't...have much of it. At all. Closest I ever got to having lots of it was probably City of Unity when it was still running. Beyond just the RP itself being a paragraph based multi-person thing where we stored all the logs on the forum, there was also like the short story section that people did put stuff into based on the setting. Some of the in-universe ads and such for upcoming events were really fun bits to read too. Like snippets of radio transmissions and stuff. There was of course a lot of CoU art, but there was also a lot of CoU writing.
     
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  20. Everett

    Everett local rats so small, so tiny

    Edit: woops wrong gripe thread
     
    Last edited: Aug 30, 2018
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