im not potraying you as anything. if anything, youre the one making yourself out to be threatening. you have been and can be very volatile to interact with all on your own. you don't need to blame me for a precedent you've set. for someone who is insisting that im making assumptions, you're making a lot of assumptions. im telling you outright that the means of which you want to debate/deal with these problems are not effective because theyre: 1) not your business 2) assume being fat is a personal failing 3) stand on the basis that fatness in itself is inherently bad 4) chock full of fatphobic rhetoric that immediately puts anyone with any experience dealing with it on edge also, to be clear, theres a difference between caps for emphasis and leaning on the horn shift key and blowing up at people, one of which you've done kind of often.
Fine, you win. I looked at what fatlogic was talking about today. Telling people that hyperthyroidism doesn't work like that, or that they shouldn't ride a horse if they're overweight, that's fat-phobic hate-speech that just blames the person for being fat. There's nothing I can do about not being able to find clothes except attack manufacturers for discrimination against my genetics. The cousin who lost weight doesn't exist, I'm just delusional so I can hate fat people.
Why do you insist on deliberately misreading everything anyone but you says in this thread. It's not actually helping you any and it makes this whole ordeal incredibly frustrating for both you and everyone else involved in this.
It's like a bunch of Onion headlines "Internet Doctors Explain Hypothyroidism To People Who Didn't Ask" "Horses Designed To Carry Armored Warriors Suddenly Incapable Of Carrying The Same Amount Of Weight" "Local Woman Forgets How To Google Plus Sized Clothing Brands"
I think the second one is a reference to some Greek(?) island banning overweight tourists from donkey rides, and that's not too unreasonable - those are usually for children around here, a donkey can handle a relatively heavy load but only if it's well balanced.
like yeah not every horse can carry every weight but that massive depends on the size of the person, the size of the horse, and the breed of the horse. That's not all equal everywhere.
dunno, i feel that after 20 pages of it, and people trying to use small words, there's gotta be some factor of deliberation to it.
literally nobody is saying any of this no one is denying that your cousin didnt lose weight, im saying that you cannot expect the same results across the board, especially if you think fatness can be a case of laziness vs depression & act like its a personal failing no one is saying that youre delusional!
I'm saying she's delusional, which I don't mean in an inflammatory way. I mean I think she genuinely has incredibly little connect with reality as your average human experiences it.
Let's have a positive side bar with actual advice for those playing along at home. For clothes Torrid, Lane Bryant, and Talbots are all places I've had good luck with when shopping irl, though they're highly targeted to women. Threadup and Modcloth are good for online, though returns are a bit of a pain with Threadup. For weight things, if you have the resources then the single best thing for me personally in terms of health has been therapy, and trauma sensitive yoga. I've talked a bit in my thread about having lost weight, and nothing having to do with weight loss directly helped. Only figuring out why I personally struggle and attempting to address that with compassion has helped. I sincerely hope that everyone who struggles with their health can come by the resources they need to feel happy and comfortable in their bodies, whatever form that takes. The Trauma Center is doing 10 days of free trauma sensitive yoga sessions online if anyone is interested.
Yeah like, a donkey shouldn't have to carry more weight than it can handle ever, that's cruel. But if a fat person really wants to get into horseback riding then they can find an animal to safely accommodate their weight. Horseback riding is good exercise, and flat out saying "no horses for fatty" is just stupid and cruel.
People are misreading me and not listening when I explain. Debunking when someone says that they're carrying 100+ pounds of adipose because of their thyroid is what fatlogic mostly does, and I don't think that counts as hate-speech. If someone says that they only eat 1000 calories a day and gain weight on it, something must be wrong and it's unlikely that their metabolism is that efficient. It's not about policing people for being fat, it's countering the lies they tell to discourage other people from losing weight and to counter the excuses why many of them are overweight when really many of them have something that is about the brain rather than the body. I don't even agree with all of the fatlogic philosophy, but there are some good points.
yeah! and depending on where someone lives it might not be a practical possibility for every fat person to have access to a suitable horse but outside of like, really extreme cases it's at least theoretically possible! barring people from things they want to do for bullshit reasons helps no one (only tangentially related: i've done bellyddance for like 13 years, starting at age 9 or so, and we're always had a huge span of body shapes in my dance groups and you know what? We always made sure that everyone who liked being on stage got there, and that people who felt insecure about it got the support to go out there. weight was never an issue and that's how it goddamn should be)
Thanks for that. I actually got frustrated because I'm too fat for Torrid, and the only thing I like at Lane Bryant are the bras. My mom uses Roamans and Woman Within catalogs, but they were sold out of something by the time she tried to order. In my case, I think what I need to do to make a weight-loss diet work is to get my home in order so that it doesn't trigger me to drink, and start a journal so I can write down accomplishments. Even though I don't hang out on fatlogic anymore, I do need to remember that for every voice saying "it's impossible to lose weight," there are other voices saying that they're wrong.
We've shown multiple times how this one is false. Maybe people would stop repeating things and accusing you of not reading our posts if you would acknowledge the things we say, like at all. Caps for emphasis: THIS IS NOT YOUR JOB NOR YOUR BUSINESS. DOING THIS IS STILL HARMFUL AND NOT A POINT IN FAVOR OF FATLOGIC. Also, that's still policing people for being fat
As someone who works in a hospital lab: you. are. wrong. thyroid issues (and PCOS, ahh hormones are fun) have a huge impact on how likely the body is put on weight from either excess calories (even small excesses) or what even 'counts' as excess. Unless you have someone's full medical history you got no business telling them what is or isn't 'accurate'. There are some absolutely freaky metabolic disorders out there. There are some absolutely freaky other disorders out there that fuck your lipid balance six ways to sunday. Example: I have PERSONALLY seen blood from a 25 year old female with acute pancreas inflammation. Her lipid levels were off the damn charts. Her centrifuged blood had plasma that looked like coffee creamer. The CBC machine was misinterpreting the fat droplets in her blood as maglignant cells. The entire thing resolved within a week once her pancreatitis was addressed. You, the layman have absolutely no business passing judgement on someone's weight. Even if you're not a layman, if you're not someone's doctor and have access to their medical history, you have no business 'addressing' anything because you don't. actually. know.
Yeah, they're just trying to help. <3 I mean, seriously, this is all just from the first page or two, and just the titles. It's pointlessly cruel mockery so that people can jerk it to how right they are. The people you're saying they're trying to educate or argue against aren't even present. At least kiwi farms is self aware and not under the impression they're helping people.
Funny thing is, alcohol is incredibly calorie dense and really super bad for your health no matter how much you weight.
