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I am whoheartedly behind the sincere part. I want to understand the apology instead of rushing it out because of some social convention.

 

No, Athol. Go back and read.

 

Not you too, and I think theses are getting non-linear. Like "how dare you ask the question when the answer is in the mail?"

 

I shouldn't be whoheartedly sincere?

 

So if I post about my feelings, that somehow lets you post and say you'll shut up if I stop lying?

 

I'm struck again by the frustrating memory of trying to talk with my father near the end. Alcohol fucks with your brain something awful. I wonder how these conversations would be going if she was even somewhere approaching longer-term sobriety, and if it would be possible to get through about the harm that's being done with any cohesion.

 

If you don't grasp what the hell we are saying, the sincerity of your response is moot. Here, why don't you translate what you think Rigel said. Or what I said, if you'd prefer a shorter post.

 

Athol please, please get help immediately. Please try to call someone, first thing in the morning, to start addressing your alcoholism. I promise that once that is dealt with it will be so so much easier for you to communicate with the people here. Right now the alcohol is literally handicapping you in many ways, and threatening your life, and no one here wants you to be hurt by that no matter how much they disagree with you. I know you say it will be easier to do with alcoholism after the hoarding has been dealt with, but it will also be able to deal with hoarding after the alcoholism has been dealt with! Please take care of yourself. Please.

 

Ah, yes, it's some gay dude's fault you're a homophobe. Sure, that makes sense.

Also,

You know what, maybe sincerity isn't a good strategy for you. Maybe you should pretend to be a person who knows how to talk in civilized society.

(Btw, mods, if this is what you're approving, what's getting wiggled?)

(Don't answer that. Just, thank you, and my condolences.)

 

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sorry to intrude
i've been lurking here for a while, but
i think Athol has a particular issue which i also have, which is "interpreting communications with a negative tone as more hostile than intended, especially things directed at [me/her]"
with that stated, @spockandawe, if its ok, could we get an intended tone clarification on that last post? if it was directed at me i would read it as "extremely angry" and since i think, like athol, i would have read many of your earlier posts as angrier than intended (and in fact I did so initially, even just as a bystander), i would really appreciate a clarification
(i just happen to have the opposite reaction when tone misinterpretation happens, where instead of fighty my response is become Small and do Not Antagonize Further At All Costs)
sorry/thanks

 

TVTROPES IS NOT A SOURCE ON HOW TO MODEL BEHAVIOR.

People are not tropes. Hell, even the section you cited mentions how complex things are, and you've doubled down in this reply and included fresh new layers of homophobia in it.

I also still want an apology for using my words like that and will not do a tchgb with you until i get one.

 

ALSO WOW WHAT THE FUCK I JUST LOOKED UP WHAT A SUNDOWN TOWN IS AND THAT MIGHT BE THE MOST STAGGERINGLY CASUAL RACIST THING YOU'VE SAID SO FAR JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

 

this is the opposite of what Spock was saying

but the way you keep misunderstanding things is a symptom of alcohol abuse

please go to rehab

trying to get sober on your own is extremely dangerous and you need medical help

 

if you are "happy" with being a bigot, you shouldn't be surprised when people get angry at you for saying bigoted stuff. that's the natural consequence of it.

 

Athol. You are not pragmatic and cynical. You are acting delusionally and being misanthropic.

 

thanks, much appreciated <3