Reporting the mods

Another correction, I guess, because 'delusional' was used exactly as 'delusional' generally is, and nobody said otherwise. So this particular angle does seem very bad-faith, even with context. The actual problem was described point-blank in the wiggler, and can best summed up as 'literally every other part of the post.'

 

"Blindly accepting things" is not really what's been requested. But most importantly, no, you weren't "using delusional wrong". You were doing other things wrong, and were told what they were. This, right here, where you are told what someone's complaint is, and you say their complaint is something totally different? It's really fucking annoying. It also prevents you from making progress.

 

(This applies generally, I'm not sure which specific post you're asking about)

This only works when the phrasing is the reason for something to be wiggled.

When it's the thought that's being wiggled no amount of rephrasing will get it through.

Also, this requires us to do a lot of work for you and we don't always have the time or inclination to do that

 

Wow, lmao

1) you don't actually have the power to assign homework

2) good lord, you are ENTITLED

3) you made that demand less than 20 minutes ago, grow upppp

4) I literally just walked in the door from a few hours of exercise, and I wasn't actually going to do this, because it only makes you look bad, but hey, let me go see if other mods will okay me doing that.

 

the mods have names, you know. you can literally scroll up and flick through pages of a thread to find out who said what.

 

Just... mind the warnings if you read this, guys, including for the nested spoiler. It starts off uncomfortable, but it gets much worse before the end.

Spoiler: transphobia, ableism

The context! This was a response to a post in the terf logic about a mom talking about how her child USED to THINK they were trans, but she sure taught her kid better. It's an unpleasant post. Right here. The kid identified as trans, mom is pretty sure they beat trained that out of them, and she has her "daughter" back, now identifying as a lesbian.

Athol's take:

Point 1 doesn't need paraphrasing, it's a bit of a loaded topic, but one that some people are genuinely unfamiliar with. It mostly becomes an issue in the context of the later points:

Point 2 is a bit iffier, especially given how there are still issues with people using being trans as a criteria for 'mentally unsound', by parents and professionals both.:

Paragraph break.

Point 3 is where oh god the ableism is escalating:

I've just gotta clear up that those weren't my pronoun choices. The bolding isn't from the original post, but those pronouns were not mine.

Point 4 is the only part of this she cares about, FOR SOME REASON:

Nobody here can, you know. Answer that. Because this is a screencap of a stranger telling people about her family on the internet, but sure, whatever, maybe someone can psychically divine the answer. Productive question.

Point 5 is a genuine question that probably would have been fine on its own:

Yes. Which is fundamentally and deeply abusive.

Point 6 follows directly from that and is asking questions about the kid that again, nobody here can answer because these are strangers across the internet and we're seeing the story filtered through an abusive parent's point of view.

Who knows! How would anyone here know? But man is it uncomfortable watching someone call this kid who identified as trans "she" while still implying that the kid would be a different gender if only she could pay for medical treatment.

Now, the fun part was when, here, a few people have chimed in on that thread, but she seems to have fixated on my response, so lemme just insert that here.

And that is when I was told that's "not what happened", which is real cute, coming from Athol.

Spoiler: seriously though, transphobia and ableism

After that, she stuck to her guns that if this kid wanted to go through this difficult/painful process (transitioning, I assume), then yes, that would make "her" mentally ill.

Then she compared helping a trans person transition to... treating someone with Body Integrity Identity Disorder by actually amputating their limbs.

So yeah, I'm extra glad in retrospect that this thread got wiggled and that conversation did not happen in public.

I responded again, because I'm a sucker, because this is relevant to the racism, etc., threads and it would be so nice if this problem went away:

But she says that she asked if the mom was "delusional", meaning she doesn't give her credit for being right. Except for, you know. The way she instantly believed everything the mom said about her child, and implicitly took her side that the child was wrong about their identity, etc., and then doubled down on how being trans sure is like a mental illness.

There we go!!! I have submitted my homework. Merry fucking christmas.

 

mentioning that the mods have names =/= dismissing your post. i was directly addressing it, just not the part you wanted addressed.

 

Ah yes, responding to being called transphobic by being more transphobic!
It's this sunny personality that makes everyone love you so much, Greallan!
(That was sarcasm. You are seemingly unrepentantly awful.)