let's not on this, yeah? she's already doing a persecution complex thing. reminder athol i'm not engaging until you take that thing out of your signature.
I'm pretty sure I already did. The quote was even sitting in my quote-think for long enough that I saw it five times.
What you are doing right now, is abuse. And more specifically, as I have expressed distress and told you a number of times, that I personally really dislike the passive aggressive guilt trip style of communication and that it reminds me of my abusive mother... ...It's pretty abusive toward me that you've done that in response to me telling you to stop. I feel ill. I feel unsettled, and shaky. So. Stop it. Last chance, from me.
I mean, you "apologised" in a way that blamed Spock, then unapologised when people told you that blaming Spock remains unacceptable.
From what I can peice together, even though I barely have the spoons for things like cooking and showering, fixing my pronoun trouble is the most important thing. So how do I fix it?
Athol asked this question in a wiggler thread too - I think, by accident - so I'll copy over my explanation there. You have managed to render that particular sentiment down to something that is broadly good-faith and relatively acceptable.
You're doing it still. Nobody wants you to prioritize things on an internet forum over your actual self care. Stop it. Go do the things you need to do. Secondly, while the pronoun thing was rough and you further complicated it with jove and certainly owe her an apology, i'm gonna direct you to follow the steps in snitch's post with step one being 1. Respect that you did an abusive thing to spock without requiring an admission of Equal Guilt And reiterate that I'm not moving on until you have shown that you understand why what you did to spock was bad and can promise me you're going to try not to do it again. I'm now adding an additional clause of "and without doing passive aggressive statements that make us feel responsible for whether you complete basic life tasks or self harm because that feeds right back in to what you were doing to spock, just on a lesser scale." I'm not letting this slide and I still firmly suggest nobody else does either, because if we go through things one by one rather than jumping around with the stream of consciousness it's more likely to stick and show actual change.
I'm having really bad hallucinations. I keep apologizing and explaining what went wrong with Spock, but they're not there.
We are wiggling them because they are blame-shifting and self-flagellating. And you are now accusing us of making you hallucinate, which is real classy™.
there could be stuff in the wiggler that im not seeing but this specific quote doesn't ping as blaming to me?
There's been a lot of hallucination content that either was posted to the wiggler or ended up in the wiggler last night/this morning, and the general idea now seems to be that it's our fault for moving posts.
It's in the wiggler, they're all in the wiggler. Can you please let it through so people can see how I'm blameshifting things to myself?
Hey, Athol, you've been told several times by now this is not how apologies work. Please take a break, have a thing of water or other suitable non-alcohol beverage, maybe a small snack, take a walk, whatever. Please disengage for a while and try to come back to this once you aren't so frazzled. You're not making sense, and this way no one will be able to help you.
In this case, it's because she made a single self-flagellating "oh I guess I'm sorry for not letting Spock abuse me" post and then reposted it an extra two times, while claiming that the well-documented moving of said posts to the wiggler was in some way a hallucination or delusion. Probably because she's looked up a definition of 'gaslighting' and now has a shiny new tool she wants to use on everything.
Are you trying to make me crazy? I accept that everything I do is just wrong, but then when I try to be less wrong, I get yelled at for that too.