Reporting the mods

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by Athol Magarac, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Oh, so I = Spock. Where me come from, I is referring to the speaker.
     
  2. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    That is not what I said.

    I have no idea what this means, and we haven't been using the wiggler to threaten you as far as I am able to determine.
     
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  3. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    Cute.

    But "I got so desperate to make it stop that I made threats" is still blaming someone else for your unacceptable actions.
     
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  4. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Except that isn't happening despite my best efforts.

    Watch this get wiggled for self-depreciating flagellation.
     
  5. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    This is a better indicator that you simply don't understand why so much of what you say is wiggled than pretty much anything else you've ever said.

    Which is why you're on postmod, so that works out.
     
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  6. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    that is because currently you are not very successful at trying to clear up misunderstandings.
    Currently a lot of the posts that get through read like they are looking for an easy button that means you can never adjust your behavior but people don't get to call you out for saying harmful shit anymore.
    That's not 'clearing up misunderstanding' that's trying to win.
    There is no winning in this conversation and you should stop trying to find one.
     
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  7. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    Also, as a semi-regular reminder.
    [​IMG]
    Alcohol's a hell of a drug.
     
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  8. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Desperation is not a valid reason to do unacceptable things. Full stop. Those laws about maritime cannibalism are BS.

    In Jr. High, When I was playing sick to get a break from the bullying, that was completely on me and the bullies were completely innocent.
     
  9. TheOwlet

    TheOwlet A feathered pillow filled with salt and science

    1) you get wiggled because you say inacceptable stuff. The posts in here and some that spock has available in the TCHGB thread make it blindingly obvious.

    2) You will get wiggled for as long as it takes for you to stop saying inacceptable, HARMFUL stuff. The fact that you by and large don't seem to understand why the stuff you say is bad contributes to this. That's not a threat, that's a consequence of saying terrible things. If I went and said some of the stuff you said, I would get my things wiggled as well once they were reported.

    You get wiggled because you say terrible thing. We all would get wiggled for saying terrible things. That fact that you seem to have a unique talent for saying absolutely horrible things means you get wiggled a whole lot more than anyone else, and rightly so.
     
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  10. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    Pretending to be sick ≠ threatening to send someone videos of you self-harming

    Those are not the same thing. They are by no means comparable.

    And also, Spock. Was. Not. Bullying. You.
     
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  11. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    A lot of stuff gets wiggled, and when there is a reason it's because "you said the complete opposite of what you were trying to say."

    I shouldn't try to talk to anyone until I learn how to talk to people effectively. How do I do that, because reading books hasn't seemed to help.
     
  12. IvyLB

    IvyLB Hardcore Vigilante Gay Chicken Facilitator

    I do not have reason to believe either you or the mods are currently on a boat, in international waters, or in a situation of accute starvation.
    Stop trying to find a gotcha.

    Literally no one is forcing you to be here, this isn't school, you're not paying any of us to provide you with any sort of service.
    If you're so unhappy walk. away.
    Nothing is keeping you here. There are literally thousands of other forums out there.
     
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  13. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    I'm just going to say this one more time: There is no conspiracy to silence you, and your posts that are wiggled have demonstratively been done for very good reasons.

    That thing you just posted, didn't get wiggled.

    It was not flagellation.

    "I am subhuman" "I should just stop trying to get better because I'm an inhuman monster/slur/other self denigrating comment" that sort of thing is self-deprecating flagellation.

    This however, as snitch said, places the onus back on spock, who as a reminder, actually did nothing wrong, like, on a factual level. So let me break this down for you one last time.

    Your emotional reaction to the perceived threat = happened. nobody is going to tell you it did not happen. It has been pointed out that it was an unreasonable level of an emotional reaction because you were reacting to something that was not there in the communication via your accusation of spock "flying off the handle" in a very mild post.
    Your emotional response is valid and it is accepted that you had reasons for reading more into it even if we don't understand them. We are not telling you that you did not get angry, just that your anger did not have a basis grounded in factual reality of the situation.

    Your actionable response to the perceived threat = unacceptable. Not valid. Threats are never acceptable.


    A Guide To An Apology That Might Work Here But Only If You Are Sincere And Understand The Concepts:

    "I'm sorry for lashing out at you and threatening you. It was not acceptable to take my anger and distress out on you like that. I understand now that I was reacting to a perception of your words that was not rooted in the reality of what you said.

    I understand that it is never okay to threaten people to achieve the results I want.

    I understand that you are not obliged to forgive me, and that an apology does not wipe away my actions from the historical record.

    I am sorry for trying to hurt you, and any hurt caused. I will try not to do it again."
     
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  14. TheOwlet

    TheOwlet A feathered pillow filled with salt and science

    Stop comparing yourself to absolutely in extremis situation when you can walk away from this at any point. Literally.

    Spock wasn't bullying you. Nobody here's bullying you, in fact a considerable chunk of people are trying to help you, despite it all. The fact that you interpret any sort of criticism as 'bullying' does not accurate reflect reality.

    And even so, threatening to send someone video material of your selfharm ISN'T ACCEPTABLE.
     
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  15. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    Stop it, I'm not going to explain anymore why what you are doing here is fucked up. If you still don't understand, go back and reread previous pages of the thread before commenting more. The onus is on you here. Most of us are tired of performing emotional labor for you, especially when you respond with things like this which AGAIN create an expectation of us comforting you for past hurts and moving the discussion onto those rather than the current and real hurts you have caused.
     
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  16. Snitchanon

    Snitchanon What's a mod to a nonbeliever.

    The reasons are explained. That is pretty much all we can do.

    God, if only.

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Can you throw me a bone? I feel like a shit-person all of the time and just trying to have a normal conversation is impossible because people treat me like a bad person and what's the use because this is just going to get wiggled for being honest about how bad I feel and now I feel like if I get sober I'm just going to be treated badly.
     
  18. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    All of which I'll get banned from. I asked months ago about something that was like Kint but I don't think anyone responded.
     
  19. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    What kind of learner are you? Do you learn best by copying information out, hearing it, reading it, or practicing it?

    Because seriously, if it will help you? I'll take some of the previous posts I have made on the topic of making your communication clearer and removing the abusive elements and record myself reading them out loud. I will make you a podcast experience if that would help you. I can't say how long it would be, but it'd cover The Basics you keep tripping over.
     
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  20. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    I can't say what I want to say because it will just get wiggled. Me showing my emotions will hurt people.
     
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