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Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by Athol Magarac, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Which panel was I talking about, and do you even know that ohjoysextoy isn't completely about sex? They're compiling a book to be handed out in reproductive health centers, I think.
     
  2. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    Dismissive, assuming things.
    Also I just explained to you on the previous page why that comparison Looks Bad, as a heads up.
     
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  3. Jove

    Jove [ destination defenestration ]

    No, it doesn't. It starts out with a perceived dismissal, there is a difference.

    That isn't relevant. Deflection will not save you on this one. You don't need to be told again about that.
     
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  4. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    Wobbles hand. I'd say it is a dismissal, but a fair one in context. The fact that it's hackle raising is not on snitch, but snitch saying no is in fact a dismissal of her request. The request in this case was just unreasonable.
     
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  5. Jove

    Jove [ destination defenestration ]

    Ninja'd me before I could edit. Went back and reread, and agreed. Sorry about that, my bad.
     
  6. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    I am such a sucker, here I go again.

    One, I know plenty about what they are, or I wouldn't have approved the post

    Two, I'm pretty sure you're referring, like Kathy said, to the consensual nonconsent

    Three, even if that's not what you were talking about, you never SAID what you were talkimg about, and didn't bother to explain a single goddamn thing about what it was you were referencing. You brought up [something to do with sex] and [being forced can be good] and anyone reading this without prior knowledge of that reference is going to read this as 'being raped can be GREAT'

    I would have felt completely justified in wiggling that, even having guessed what you were trying to reference, because there is NO guarantee anyone reading will be able to do that. There are lots of survivors on this site, and that would be a shitty thing to say in front of anyone, period.

    No matter what you MEANT, you just directly implied that rape can be good. That is what is important. What you ACTUALLY SAY.

    And i just wiggled a different post from just before this one where you conpared feeling subhuman to the systemic oppression of black people, handily implying that black people are less than human. That comes from the words YOU SAY. It is a PROBLEM.
     
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  7. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    All good C:

    eta: athol, i made that dragon prince thread and even asked questions to get it started as a heads up.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2018
  8. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    The think I was talking about,
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  9. rigel

    rigel in a line of late afternoon sun

    wholly that doesnt matter, because you have a habit of making a lot of really inappropriate sexual analogies to explicitly non-consenting parties, so reading "being forced into something can sometimes be good" particularly from you, isnt going to make a lot of people feel comfortable around you.
     
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  10. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Then you are, surprise, STILL being INCREDIBLY careless with the implications of your words.

    And again, imagine how much trouble you could save yourself by just being fucking direct in the first place

    Plus, for emphasis, the net result of the words you posted is STILL that you implied 'rape can be good'
     
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  11. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Really confused now... other people can lay down meaning from their self-reference to make your words mean something completely different from your own self-reference, but words mean things...
     
  12. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Words do, in fact, continue to have commonly accepted meanings. Not personally defined ones.
     
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  13. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    And now I'm interpreting "what you said affects your words FOREVER" so I'm really uninspired to change anything.
     
  14. Jove

    Jove [ destination defenestration ]

    Then ask for clarification, instead of trying to make other people do homework for you.
     
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  15. Jove

    Jove [ destination defenestration ]

    Then I'm afraid this is how you're going to be approached, and you'd have only brought it on yourself. You have two options here: change and things get better over time, or don't, and things will get worse.
     
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  16. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    What?

    Do "this" without doing "this"

    and get "this is a bad-faith question" as a response.
     
  17. Kathy

    Kathy Well-Known Member

    Also um, while I appreciate the cropping, I know what the actual context of that panel is and. While the sentiment of being told not to do a thing for your own good by someone you trust is fine, it's still in the context in that panel of a sexual relationship and is, not relevant and uncomfy.

    So. Let's loop this back.
    You said:
    ohjoysextoy is, primarily, about sex. The panel you were referencing is from a comic about sex.

    With that context alone, it sounded as though you were referencing consensual-nonconsent, in which a person agrees ahead of time to roleplay a nonconsensual sexual encounter. You did not include any context of it being actually about weight. We can only assume from your initial words and the context of the source it is a sexual reference.

    The specific panel you referenced additionally is about a form of sexual relationship and the use of the framework to adjust behavior. That specific form of sexual realtionship can be deeply uncomfortable and triggering for a lot of people.

    You could have made the point that specific panel was making without referencing ohjoysextoy or that comic directly, or by clarifying from the start you meant the tail end of that specific quote, and avoided ambiguity and unintentional bad readings of it based off the incomplete context.
     
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  18. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    You know what? I'm going to hit "ignore thread" on this. That should make it naturally die by tomorrow morning without it getting locked.
     
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  19. Jove

    Jove [ destination defenestration ]

    Real cute. I'm not accepting this. Unfortunately, the consequence with your bullshit, is that I think you're being purposefully obtuse. But in the damn off chance your might not be, here:

    "I didn't understand [this very specific thing] about [that specific statement], can you rephrase?"

    Didn't Kathy go over this with you?
     
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  20. Jove

    Jove [ destination defenestration ]

    I hope you take care of yourself, but it's not going to go away, Athol. Not really. Too little and too late.
     
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