I will break out of referring to you like you are not here when there is something particularly important I need to say to you, okay? So please read this post very thoroughly. I would appreciate if in a reply, you express if you read the post to its conclusion and understood it. I understand that you are tired, and I am sorry you are feeling bad and having trouble with the hoarder-guy. I appreciate that you are making the effort off-site to improve your circumstances. I understand that you may feel overwhelmed right now, and seeing people lose their tempers and fraying and folks, myself included, swearing while in a discussion with you, may be stressful. I will remind you again that receiving criticism does not mean you are inhuman, worthless, or that putting in effort to get better is wasted. I acknowledge that you are trying to put in effort on that front. That said. Please do not insult people. None of us are stupid - I firmly believe that includes you and I'm going to actively say to others to knock off calling you stupid too. I don't believe you are stupid. I do believe you have incredibly intense cognitive distortions and when you do visit a psychologist that you should ask them to investigate you for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, to either rule it out or help you get the most specialized and focused approach they can give and figure out what is the root cognitive cause of some of your behaviors. If you want a conversation that proceeds at a slower pace, please use the thread I made in That Could Have Gone Better and be mindful of the rules I laid out in the opening post. That also said: I have a direct request for you. I would like you to pull up that sheet I linked with common cognitive distortions, and understand that everything listed there is a negative thought pattern and method of communication. Do not insult anyone. Having done that, I would ask that you do the following things in the next post you submit to the moderation queue in this thread, keeping your responses to each short and simple so you can stay focused: - Express what you understand to be wrong about making threats toward Spock. - Express what you understand to be wrong with your behavior toward Jove. - Express what, if anything, you understand to be wrong about making apologies conditional. - Express if you understand the implicit threat you made towards me. ETA: This is a small and simple task. Please show us that you are capable of formulating a response to these questions that does not deliberately harm other people.
Also, I'm just going to nudge my way in here quick to say that a low, low estimate of how many words I've poured into this situation just since november began is.... 21,000. That's limiting myself to just this thread and my tchgb thread, skipping shorter posts, not even touching on the wiggler or the void. I'm meant to be enjoying myself trying to write a novel's worth of words in a month. I've written 13k of my own material. Because all my time and energy goes into this bullshit. I'm not happy about that. I'm glad to cackle at someone trying and failing to hurt me, but that slapstick humor is the one high point of this whole situation. I remain pissed about the lies and attacks. I remain pissed that I've had to create a whole separate archive just to keep track of the reality-bending in progress. I remain pissed that this thread is still a drag on my attention and energy. I remain pissed that I need to have anything to do with her in the first place. I find engaging with her to be profoundly distasteful, but I'm not going to disengage, because I absolutely refuse to provide confirmation for Athol that her abusive tactics work. I still haven't expressed myself in this thread in ways that go beyond irritation, I haven't even tried to get mean, but rest assured that I am incredibly pissed that she thinks anything about her typical conduct here--and her treatment of me in particular--has been even remotely acceptable.
Oh my fucking god. This is just not working out y'all. So I'm going to abuse my mod powers and close this thread for the night. I'm also not going to approve any of Athol's posts to any threads for the night. Athol, you're in time out. Stop talking. Get some water and sober the fuck up for God's sake. Everyone else, you're doing amazing and I'm proud of you. Take a well deserved break.
The thread is now re-opened. We gave everyone a break. The forum's been given a break from Greallan, and Greallan's been given a break from the forum. I doubt stopping this break is a good idea, but hey.
I also remain uncomfortable with calls for the mods to act as messengers and copyeditors. We're here to try and help the community run better, not to cater to individuals.
Fine, I'm not going to go back 8 pages like I was intending to yesterday morning. I'm also not going to read anything with a timestamp before Sunrise New York.
Well, ain't this just petulant and pointless? Like, you're actively discouraging people from taking the time to reply to you, because they know you won't read what they say.
You choosing not to backread doesn't hurt anyone but you. I mean, it wastes other people's time, but other people aren't the ones having consistent catastrophic communication failures.
Actually, I'm not going to read anything that has a timestamp before "I'm good and ready" in this thread. go ahead and demonize me for trying to take care of my own emotional health. You know that thing where I was criticized for wanting to stop things just as it was getting good? Just destroyed a seed-crystal of progress by introducing air at the wrong moment.
And the petulance keeps getting laid on! Haha no. That's not what's going on, that's not what you're doing, and ignoring our advice is pretty much fatal for your overall emotional health. But you don't care because it Makes You Do A Bad Feel, and that's just intolerable. "I was going to improve as a person but then you ruined it by being mean to me" is a pretty strong indication that you really weren't trying to improve. And your incredibly slow journey to self-improvement isn't really a thing you can hold hostage.
The guilt-tripping and threatening not to read here is unproductive in the same way that threatening to hold your apologies hostage until I met your conditions is unproductive. It undermines the point of the whole thing in the first place. Nobody is stopping you from walking away from this thread, but we're not here to be your self-control for you.
There was something that stuck from last night about @Kathy Jones giving you good advice? How about letting her lead? I like her threats and manipulation, and she's getting through to me.
How about the advice that she gave to other people, like don't let the thread proceed without addressing important stuff. I don't even want things to get derailed and you(group) are enabling it by going off on petty BS like pronoun trouble. Do not touch the rubber-band-ball. I don't understand the intricacies of golden-child, but I do recognize that @Kathy Jones should be offered a megaphone because the mods are wielding their power recklessly and she's one of the people who are actually making sense.
I don't care if @Kathy Jones doesn't want to work with me personally. I want someone like her to work with the mods.
With the caveat that I do not understand your rubber-band-ball analogy, this is a very messed up thing to say. "pronoun trouble" was not the problem. The problem was that you decided addressing people by the correct pronouns, which is a tenet of basic respect, was worth less effort than household chores. Nobody was being petty, they were responding to transphobia.
Yep! You threatened to send videos of self-harm to Spock. You have refused to adequately apologise. Ah yes. 'Petty BS' like how you repeatedly confuse people's pronouns and then double down rather than apologising. Obviously. Yeah, stop putting her on a pedestal, and stop pinging her to get her to do tricks. You don't pay her, she's helping you out of her own good will. And if you can point to an actual coherent complaint about our 'reckless use of mod powers', I'd be happy to hear it.