Reporting the mods

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by Athol Magarac, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. Ana Nimus

    Ana Nimus Well-Known Member

    If you can't even explain your own words, how the hell do you expect anyone outside your head to understand you?

    Get sober. Go to therapy. Get trained, professional help.

    Prioritize that over yet another one of these goddamn threads.
     
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  2. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Mmmmmm, the 'NO U' defense. As progress-halting and ineffective as ever.

    I wasn't confused about the 'it's that were obviously 'athol's abuse of the mods'. I just underestimated how much vagueness could be crammed into a mere 37 words.

    Also, to break out linguistics, the first three instances of 'it' were pretty clearly in reference to my post, where the primary subject was 'athol's abuse of the mods'. The fourth 'it' was a change of subject on your part. And now! On to a different post of how you're absolutely fixated on the idea that you deserve some kind of say in how I'm allowed to feel about your attempted abuse of me :D
     
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  3. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Fun homework assignment that I'm not actually assigning because I already have the answer: find a single time I've said I enjoy the way you treat me. And now that I've pretended to assign homework, I'll tell you, possibly the only use of 'enjoy' I made that had something to do with you was refusing to do ppc assignments to prove [reason not found], because I'd prefer to spend my energy on something I enjoy.

    In less indirect terms, writing things for you is the opposite of enjoyable.

    Or maybe you think you're referring to the tchgb thread, where I said I was having a decent time archiving everything.

    That's not enjoyment either, that is thankless heavy labor where what I get out of it is the satisfaction of gaving a detailed historical reference at hand whenever you try to rewrite history or wipe unpleasant memories. Nothing about dealing with you is FUN.

    But! What you are almost certainly trying to get at is that I find your treatment of me hilarious.

    Which I do.

    If you'll note, I compare dealing with you to several instances of me being injured. Let's take the shattered hand, just for ease of reference.

    Was having a bone in manymany pieces hilarious? Absolutely. Was it FUN? Did I like having it happen? Did I like dealing with the pain, surgeries, lost work, lost DAYS, painkiller haze, inconvenience, inability to do my hobbies, the physical therapy, and the to-this-day decreased range of motion and malrotation? No, why would I? I would be delighted to never break my hand again. But I just tripped across the videos I took of my hand bending the wrong way, and turns out, it happening at all was still hilarious.

    And now, you.

    Look at those quotes up above. You agree it's abuse. You have agreed that you were trying to hurt me. You failed, because your tactics were really obviously abusive and I don't know how you expected to draw a sincere emotional reaction from me like THAT, but just the fact that you set out with a goal of making me hurt? You set out with a goal of making me saaaaad? Fuckin hilarious, man.

    Now, you've argued that it's wrong of me to feel this way. Because I'm laughing at your pain. Yeah, no. Look at your own words. You have been abusing the mods. You have tried to deliberately hurt me.

    Now... what, you're trying to control how I feel about being abused? You're trying to tell me how I'm allowed to feel when you try to hurt me? You're trying to say that, idk, if you try to hurt me I'm ONLY allowed to feel sad/angry/hurt, or else the rules say I have to pretend nothing happened?

    Dude, this is absurd. Set your pride aside for two fricking seconds and stop trying to convince yourself you have a leg to stand on. If you abuse someone, they're allowed to feel however the fuck they want to about it. I'm sure plenty of abuse victims feel those negative emotions you so desperately wanted to inspire. I don't.

    Trying to say it's BAD of me to laugh at the abusive things you yourself have done to me is a hilarious nonsrarter. It's a last-ditch effort to make the abuse do SOMETHING to me. You might not gave managed to hurt me..... but you think you get to demand I be solemn and sad about the ways you've tried to hurt me? Grow up. You tried to attack me, many times over. I'm laughing at how completely you failed to cause the harm you wanted to cause. I do not and have not enjoyed dealing with you in any way, shape, or form, but I am absolutely going to keep on laughing at how transparent you've been about wanting to hurt me, and how completely those efforts have failed.
     
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  4. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    The one I'm most familiar with is Sherlock Holmes in the 22 Century, which you can probably guess is a low-budget show aimed at children. I thought that the BBC version was some edgy take.

    But that's not really what I was going for at all. Conspiracy theorist is probably pretty close to the gist... something non-insulting that says they're way off the mark.
     
  5. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Conspiracy theorist is still insulting.
     
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  6. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Well the mods have gotten better about not looking unreasonable. Maybe we can see if it's not a fluke.
     
  7. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    'You are divorced from reality and making nonsensical conclusions' is probably the BEST you could do, except that people have been trying to say that to you and you consistently react badly, soooooo
     
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  8. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    Let's fix that then.

    Fuck you completely for implying that we're "unreasonable" (read: crazy) and have "gotten better" because you like how we're acting at the moment a bit more. That's actual real gaslighting, crazy-making, whatever you want to call it and it's condescending and abusive as fuck.
     
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  9. idiomie

    idiomie I, A Shark Apologist

    okay i'm so sorry for this derail and this is probably a mistake, but

    @Athol Magarac

    can you please explain the pronoun trouble, from your perspective? because you keep bringing it up, and i'm not sure what you think the problem is
     
  10. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    Please note, this not a moral request, it's just something that bothers me personally because my brain be that way. It is just a request, so it's reasonable for you to say no, if you want.

    That is not a good way to shorten Kintsugi. Because the word is Japanese, the syllable* breaks in Kintsugi are kin-tsu-gi. Kint is just wrong and it makes my brain itch :P

    I've seen people use KS, which is also wrong, but it makes my brain itch less :P

    *(I know Japanese doesn't technically have syllables, but this is easier to explain, etc)
     
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  11. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    If it's stupid but it works, let's throw it out in favor of trying things that aren't stupid even if they don't work.
    I did. Don't go off on me expecting a gold star, just don't say that I didn't just make progress by admitting that I was abusive even if I don't understand it. There's also that other thing I don't understand in the wiggler.
     
  12. Re Allyssa

    Re Allyssa Sylph of Heart

    Except we (or at least I) stopped translating because we weren't getting acknowledged or thanked for our efforts. Your plan kinda backfired.

    Also note that when people have translated for you, the reactions of everyone else were something like "oh I get it, now. That still doesn't make it okay"

    I've never been attacked from saying "actually, I think Athol means [thing]"
     
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  13. Beldaran

    Beldaran 70% abuse and 30% ramen

    The hell?
     
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  14. idiomie

    idiomie I, A Shark Apologist

    uhhhhhh

    i think athol is saying that the mods were communicating better with her, and that now that she's commented on it/brought attention to it, you're "throw[ing] it out" because it's stupid/you don't like it, and are going back to the way of communicating with her that doesn't work, but you like.

    i think

    athol, that's 100% not what's happening though
     
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  15. rigel

    rigel in a line of late afternoon sun

    if we're so unreasonable to you, you can leave. no one is keeping you here. christ.
     
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  16. seebs

    seebs Benevolent Dictator

    Okay, I think this one almost makes sense to me.

    Athol has discovered that, if she pretends that the mods were at fault in some way, but now they've changed, she feels better and can engage more. If, on the other hand, she acknowledges that any changes are internal, she feels bad and can't do it. So it "works"; it makes it easier for her to engage and try to deal with things.

    And she interprets your hostile response as trying to prevent her from having something that works, because it's stupid, in favor of non-stupid things that don't work.

    Reason we don't like the thing that "works": It doesn't actually work, because Athol isn't actually getting noticably better. She's just rediscovering that if she pretends the problem is definitely other people, she feels better. Which is absolutely true. That's how compensatory narcissism deals with frustrations -- by pretending all the problems are problems with other people, so the narcissist doesn't have to actually do anything or risk feeling bad about their problems being the direct result of their own free choices.
     
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  17. idiomie

    idiomie I, A Shark Apologist

    like. i have read EVERY SINGLE THING you have posted that's actually made it to the forum, athol. every thread, every post. i have no idea what you were referring to with them "looking less unreasonable" because i did not detect any change* in how they were treating you (in this thread)

    *overall, everyone has gotten a lot shorter, and somewhat snippier, but. i don't think it's undeserved, for one, and for two, that's like. the opposite. of "looking less unreasonable"
     
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  18. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Um, is there something reasonable that I can shorten it to?

    Tsu is something I can hear when they say Tsugumi Rosenmeier (つぐみ・ローゼンマイヤー Tsugumi Rōzenmaiyā) in the english dub, but I don't hear in tsunami. (Actually, it's a not-hear... like there's a gutteral pause or anti-sound.) Great... now trying to pronounce Kintsugi sounds like I'm having a really gross case of the hiccups, I'm going to have to look up a soundfile.
     
  19. idiomie

    idiomie I, A Shark Apologist

    i've been shortening it to kintsu? which is not terribly shorter than kintsugi, but. i can't use kin, so. i also don't generally shorten it at all though
     
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  20. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Perhaps being more terse makes it easier for me to understand?

    Okay, I'm about ready for bed and I'm going to be either random or selective about what I catch up on.
     
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