also can you please engage with something that's actually relevant to this thread and not a one-off aside
how about reading all of it? we are writing these posts for you to read. that's how communication works.
Trust Athol to respond to that rather than anything else. Don't give her an avenue for derailment because she will take any opportunity to do so rather that do the necessary work for self-improvement. Or even admitting that she hasn't been anything but the victim here.
exactly what would give you this conclusion. because from where i'm sitting, this looks like a bald-faced lie. i do not have the energy to comb through everything and quote your statements to the opposite, but. that doesn't make any sense, athol
The nicknaming is a thing that's been weird, ftr. I get how shorter names can be easier, and there's nothing inherently offensive about it, but you've created names like spockette, rigi, socko, etc, and you frequently come up with names that are cutesy and/or come up with names for people you're antagonistic towards. It's not my favorite. It can feel overfamiliar. It can feel like you're talking down to someone. It can feel like you're trying to brush someone off with a diminutive name. And sometimes you create the name out of thin air, and it's just uncomfortable. I'm not telling you to stop. I am saying it's weird.
@Athol Magarac in relation to this, personally i would like you to not call me any nicknames because it makes me super uncomfortable, thanks.
actually i lied the famous extra pissy quote support for your assertion that being terse helps, except. every example of this happening, you do not respond well. people need to be performatively overempathetic and soothing to you for anything to get across. so this isn't necessarily a lie, in that i'm not ascribing you intentionally saying a false thing, but it is absolutely false again, you routinely misread polite-but-not-catering-to-you as rude and hostile. if anything, being more terse seems like the last thing you would want.
Yeah, I said KS works, just kin (though there is term overlap that could be a problem) could too Most people don't say tsunami right, so it's okay! Trust me I pronounce words in my head incorrectly all the time. English (my first language) even! I don't care if you don't say it right, I just don't like seeing "Kint" lol. Anyway, this is a huge derail, I was just mentioning a thing. We should probably go back to what we were talking about
EDIT: I FUCKED UP. its almost as if she's lying. she just likes what was being said a bit more, so shes purposely framing it as though its actually helping.
i'm avoiding saying lying specifically because athol has historically blown up at that accusation. my use of "blown up" is intentional, athol. that is, i feel, an accurate reaction of the course of your escalation in reaction to being accused of lying. i don't think athol is lying in the strict definition of "intentionally making false statements to deceive, often for malicious purposes" because i don't think athol is being intentional about it. i think athol says generally what athol believes to be true at any given moment. athol just isn't actually grounded in reality at any given point in time so pretty much everything athol says is provably false
The name is Beldaran, you can call me Beldaran, it's pronounced Beldaran. I continue to dislike being called Bel. If you don't know my nickname then call me Beldaran and deal with the hardship of typing a few more letters in the correct order.
The mods have "gotten better" about "not looking unreasonable" because now there is a witness to the ways you have been abusing them who is not going to tolerate you lying about it. Just own up to what you did and apologize. Apologize for trying to hurt people, not because you think it's a shortcut to social success, but because other humans matter and hurting people like you have been is wrong.
also, i would like to amend an earlier claim i made. athol has responded to a thread lebesgue made that i'm not supposed to be reading, so i haven't read those particular posts, and thus technically haven't read EVERY SINGLE POST like i claimed. i did ask lebesgue about their interaction with her, though, and i have actually read everything else
Having just received clarification on the reasoning for two of the six posts I was confused about being wiggled, I now see why the only post I could reasonably interpret as "silencing" was wiggled. I would personally have still been hand wobbly about approving the other one. Which means..... ........every single post in the wiggler from you, athol, has a clear and reasonable cause and effect behind the wiggling. There were two posts that were moved to their original threads after I pointed some stuff out, but the cause and effect were very apparent. So no. You weren't being silenced. You weren't being "censored", you were being prevented from engaging with people who have told you they don't want you in their threads. Your claims of mod abuse are baseless, offensive and false. The "worst" thing I saw in there was snitch being mildly snarky in the most recent stuff and they've kinda earned the right to be. The rest was a lot of people, some of whom are my friends, working very carefully to try and explain shit to you in a way you can parse, and you insulting, sexually harassing, and threatening them for it. So knock it the fuck off. This stuff doesn't Get To Stay Behind Doors. Every mod is a person and they're good people and do not deserve the myriad ways you've been trying to hurt them. Stop it. Get some help.
I get why people think that "mods silencing people" is gonna be a thing. It's just hilarious to me in context, because... Okay, first off, I am really, really, strongly opposed to be people being silenced or prevented from being heard or prevented from raising concerns about how they're treated. Secondly, I don't pick people as mods if I don't think I can trust them to follow similar practices. And thirdly, I don't pick people as mods if I think they'd toe the party line if they disagreed with it. The mods can and do disagree with each other. They can, and do, talk about those disagreements openly where applicable. They will disagree with my opinions on policy or practice, and they act according to their own consciences. If posts aren't in public, that doesn't just mean that one mod wanted them silenced, or even that a majority did. It means we had no strong objections at all to them being wiggled. (Disclaimer: Theoretically, I could Pull Rank and use my admin powers, I guess? But that would be fucking stupid and has not yet come up, I don't think.) And if there's any dispute, we generally talked about it before a decision was made. Still hilarious to me: At one point there was an accusation that I'd "sent" the mods to silence a critic. "Sent." As if I'd give moderator powers to someone I thought could be "sent" to do someone else's dirty work.
I didn't spend a week mediating a fight between Seebs and Wiwaxia to be ordered around by one of them. Silencing and abusing people on the internet where all the evidence is right there for God and everyone to see is too stupid to contemplate.
also, @Athol Magarac i am willing to talk about how to express pain and hurt without being abusive. you've been given this help, but if a new person throwing themselves at this helps, sure full disclosure, i'm helping with this because my parents treat any reference of me struggling with being hurt as abusive and left with me serious scrupulosity issues wrt asking people for help when i'm hurting, and i find it deeply, deeply of