Hannibal

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by cleverThylacine, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    i accidentally the hannibal finale (ok really it was on purpose) and now I have all the FEELS.
     
  2. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    I agree but do not have anything more coherent to say than "I KNOW, RIGHT"
     
  3. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    That's OK because I'm totally incoherent about it too.
     
  4. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    like...
    on a thematic level, I am SO SATISFIED with that ending. like, yes, blood and moonlight and everyone dying. perfect.
    and BEDELIA.
     
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  5. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    ME TOO. :) But also, OW. And I love Will sfm.
     
  6. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    Ok, having rewatched s1 (still my favorite, it turns out) with my dad, I come to resurrect the thread in order to post this quote:

    Me: "I love that bit where Bedelia is like.. You cannot protect a man who is disconnected from the concept [of friendship], as a man disconnected from the concept."
    Me: "Hannibal in a nutshell: Two men fail spectacularly at friendship. .. There are casualties."
    My dad: "Two men with homicidal tendencies fail at friendship, but succeed gloriously at homicide."
     
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  7. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    I heart S1 even though at that time I was still resisting the Hannigram because I didn't know it was gonna be CANON
     
  8. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    I loved s2 as it was happening, and I loved .. a lot of individual events in s3, but not the way the plot arc was executed? Ehhh idk. I still like it a lot but re watching has renewed my fondness for season 1, which I initially watched in, like, two days. It has all the things I like, such as Lots Of Abigail and Will Progressively Gets Worse And Is More Of A Disaster. <333
     
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  9. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    S3 suffered badly from the lack of cohesion. They should have introduced Dolarhyde earlier and more slowly.
     
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  10. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    Yes, and - while I liked the slow, atmospheric episodes at the very beginning, it became a problem when they got to the mid-season finale and were like OH SHIT WE NEED TO JAM AS MUCH PLOT IN HERE AS POSSIBLE.
     
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  11. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    The problem with the slow, atmospheric episodes at the very beginning, which is my problem only most likely, is that they were aired during the month before my ankle surgery and I watched them on narcotics. And when I try to watch them now, I still feel like I'm on narcotics!
     
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  12. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    UNDERAPPRECIATED SCENES THAT I AM REDISCOVERING MY LOVE FOR:

    Beverly Katz, directed by Will Graham to discover if Hannibal killed people/framed him/specifically killed the muralist.... gets Hannibal to help her with the muralist's autopsy. And tries to subtly probe him for information.

    Beverly says things like "at least he's got you on his side" and "at least he's not accusing you anymore" and so clearly thinks she is being subtle, while the camera lingers on Hannibal's thoughtful face and you just KNOW he knows. It's so difficult to watch! It's so excellent!
     
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  13. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    I LOVE... ABEL GIDEON... he's so awful. and funny.
     
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  14. prismaticvoid

    prismaticvoid Too Too Abstract

    Tbh my favorite thing about Gideon is that nobody has believed me the first time I tell them that this show has a terrifying serial killer played by Eddie Izzard.
     
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  15. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    I love Alana Bloom. I love Alana so much! I especially love her in season 2, when she spends most of her time being a stubbornly anti-Will antagonist and yet is incredibly sympathetic and understandable. She's so good, and kind, and ... working off completely the wrong set of beliefs about the situation.

    (Plus I do love her being stubborn and angry and mean to Will. It's gr8.)

    ((Currently my dad and I are watching the episode where Will has apparently killed Freddie and is just going whole hog on implying to Alana that he killed her. It's really enjoyable to watch him being Ominous and her being sad and scared and angry about it.))

    Alana's character arc is sort of amazing:

    s1: trusts will
    s2: wildly overcorrects for trusting will

    s2: trusts hannibal
    s3: wildly overcorrects for trusting hannibal
     
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  16. cleverThylacine

    cleverThylacine cuddles for the weird and the fierce

    Alana is amazeballs and so is Margot.
     
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  17. epithimia

    epithimia Member

    Indeed, I kind of felt like a heretic for thinking, "wow did this kind of decrease in quality?" But they could only do so much with the allotted time they had left. Ideally I would have loved for them to have season 3 be completely Verger-centered and season 4 be Red Dragon centered, season 5 be some kind of separation period and season 6 to be Silence of the Lambs. But that's all in an ideal universe.

    Plus I was a little disappointed to learn that Miriam Lass was supposed to be the Clarice Starling equivalent because I had been hoping for more of a Starling inclusion than something that happened in the past. I know I'm mixing medias in comparing Hannibal to Silence of the Lambs but seeing that plot end in such a weird way in the show was a little jarring, like "that's it? That's all the Clarice I'm getting?"

    I'm just nitpicking tiny things that don't really matter to the plot as a whole, Hannibal is probably my absolute favorite drama in years and my soul is bound to the books and movies, the good and the bad.
     
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  18. blue

    blue hightown funk you up

    I totally agree about the ideal-universe season structure and, yeah, I enjoyed s3 but it just was not as good.

    I think they couldn't have Clarice bc of copyright stuff? Ooh, hey, if you do want Clarice in the NBC Hannibal universe, allow me to present to you my recent favorite fic: Ravenous.

    It's essentially a retelling of Silence of the Lambs, interspersed with excerpts from Freddie Lounds' book about Hannibal. The Silence of the Lambs bits nail Thomas Harris' prose style, while the Freddie bits are so perfectly awfully Freddie. It's set in an AU of the NBC Hannibal-verse, but you only get information about the backstory from Lounds excerpts and offhand mentions, so a lot of the tension comes from figuring out where it departed from canon. Also modern!Clarice is adorable and crushes on errybody.

    It's one chapter shy of finished, but it has been updating on a regular schedule, so. I'm hopeful.
     
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  19. epithimia

    epithimia Member

    *whispers* Oh my gosh. *licks*

    I'll get to that shortly. This is such a delightful show and fandom, I really the episode synopses that [URL='http://cleolinda.livejournal.com/tag/recaps']Cleolinda[/URL] did. Very favorite.
     
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  20. a tiny mushroom

    a tiny mushroom the tiniest

    I'm necro-ing this thread because I've nearly finished S1 Episode 12 and I'm SO DISTRESSED AND I'M GONNA THROW HANNIBAL OFF A CLIFF
     
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