shitposting rave 3: Dawn of the third rave

Discussion in 'It's Galley's Turn' started by the fourth wall, Aug 23, 2016.

  1. Helios Lavellan

    Helios Lavellan Former Inquisitor |18+

    Yes, but that means the argument is there. The first step to wearing away at stone is recognizing that it can be destroyed. If you don't know that a truth is subjective, why would you ever bother to challenge it?

    I've heard that blowing up buildings is apparently the rebellious discourse of choice, but I can't in good faith recommend it. It does do quite a bit to shake up the understood truths of the world, though. For instance: reality isn't solid! That was an interesting objective truth to be violently revealed as subjective.

    Also a... genie? I've never heard of it before. It is nice to meet you though.
     
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  2. Nichrome of Iacon

    Nichrome of Iacon Co-Captain, Decepticon Representative | 18+

    Dismantle the institutions that pretend the knowledge they produce and construct from their biased personal experience is "objective". Take power from the elite and decentralize academia.
    A knowledge producing institution that firmly acknowledges its own history and the biases fields may come with is one that does not need to cling to ideological fallacies lest the entire house of cards break apart.
    If you do not have to spend centuries decyphering the scientific premises your fellow researchers are working with, working together with many different people from many different backgrounds becomes much more achievable, allowing a more holistic, less hegemonial and orthodox canon of knowledge to be produced and disseminated.
    So basically if everyone checks themselves before they wreck themselves it becomes easier to work together. It's an honor system meant to prevent internalized biases from oppressing certain groups on the basis of canonized enshrined "knowledge" born from petty grudges or millenia of oppression.
     
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  3. Norm the Genie

    Norm the Genie The All-Powerful Genie (Thief of Breath)|18+

    Nice to meet you too.

    And yeah, I guess I get that...
    So, "rebellion" means learning history and working together and writing things in plain language?
     
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  4. Nichrome of Iacon

    Nichrome of Iacon Co-Captain, Decepticon Representative | 18+

    Yes but do we deny the existence of the aliens or do we revise the taxonomy? This is a legitemate question.
    Because sometimes the established theory states that the people who need physical help shouldn't get it because they aren't people.
    thank you. I will do my best to keep it from happening again
    "In the direction one (or the group one belongs to) wants to go in"
    I hesitate to call it the "right" direction because... well... the topic at hand probably suitably illustrates my rather rocky relationship with declaring things "right" and "wrong" without qualifiers :P

    But it's really really satisfying to blow up buildings.
     
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  5. Nichrome of Iacon

    Nichrome of Iacon Co-Captain, Decepticon Representative | 18+

    That is a form of rebellion, yes. A valid one. Protesting in front of schools would be another one. Lobbying for admission for someone from a group previously barred from academia would be another one. Stealing books and teaching yourself things "above your station" would also be considered rebellion.
    Rebellion can be many more things than bombs and blaster fire.
     
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  6. Helios Lavellan

    Helios Lavellan Former Inquisitor |18+

    I'm afraid the loss of life isn't something I care for. Not much of a fan of war either, no matter how necessary it may seem. Might I suggest blowing up sacks of rocks?
    Yes! That can be rebellion too! Or sharing learned history, to widen the knowledge of others.
     
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  7. Cloudcrusher of Kalis

    Cloudcrusher of Kalis Bomb-Ass Therapist | 18+

    Ain't that the truth.
     
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  8. Norm the Genie

    Norm the Genie The All-Powerful Genie (Thief of Breath)|18+

    Well. Yeah. True. Just... something about how you were talking about it was confusing. Dunno what but yeah...
     
  9. Silverburst

    Silverburst Dawnrider

    Revise the taxonomy, incorporating whatever they've already learned about their own biology. Why is this a question?

    This hypothetical theory disgusts and personally offends me. "Assume sapience until proven otherwise" doesn't mean unless you don't feel like it! I'm perfectly willing to take apart a stranger for energon and spares, but that doesn't mean they're not a person!

    [They visibly collect themself, wings smoothing back down and ventilation spinning down, and nod acceptance.]

    In this light, agreed; new information should be incorporated, plans revised. Rigidity is very rarely of any use.
     
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  10. Mindala Perenor

    Mindala Perenor If you have to ask, you probably can't afford me.

    *nods back and smiles and continues to listen to the discussion.
     
  11. Itch

    Itch VWIZARDS AND BOYS ARE STUPID

    vwhats blowving up buildings like??
     
  12. Helios Lavellan

    Helios Lavellan Former Inquisitor |18+

    Murder but explosive, usually.
     
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  13. Itch

    Itch VWIZARDS AND BOYS ARE STUPID

    zz:0
     
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  14. Shelobah

    Shelobah Along Came A Spider

    DD:
    [Cling cling! Help how do emotional support? Where is an adult Ave trusts???]
     
  15. Itch

    Itch VWIZARDS AND BOYS ARE STUPID

    i vwanna blowv up a building!
     
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  16. Mindala Perenor

    Mindala Perenor If you have to ask, you probably can't afford me.

    Well, construct one then blow it up, and you learn two skills at once.
     
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  17. Silverburst

    Silverburst Dawnrider

    So go find a building and explosives? Explosions really aren't difficult to create, it's usually the inhabitants or enemy that make things harder.

    ...@Averagius, bitlet, what's wrong? Should we find your caretaker?
     
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  18. Nichrome of Iacon

    Nichrome of Iacon Co-Captain, Decepticon Representative | 18+

    I generally try to give a warning before deploying my literal weapons of mass destruction.
    I am also a monster though and don't particularly mind murder if I deem it necessary.
    You always get me.
    I apologize for confusing you. I personally would probably rather choose a more... physical approach simply on account of my personal history and maybe that was what was causing the inconsistent tone? But my personal preference for physical and dramatic rebellion aside, all forms of rebellion however subtle, are valid.
    Because some people would rather deny a living being in front of them than admit they are wrong.
    I agree with you, but sadly not everyone does.
    -nods-
    I can show you?
    -she summons a glowing orb that contains memories of an autobot base getting blown to bits - with soldiers inside. Should Itch touch the orb she will witness some truly gore-ific robot murder is what I'm saying.-
     
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  19. Itch

    Itch VWIZARDS AND BOYS ARE STUPID

    *She stares in gleeful murderous awe.*
     
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  20. Averagius Of The Rave

    Averagius Of The Rave Literal Robot Angel | 18+

    -They bury their face in the nearest bit of Bit's plating, wailing.-
    -shakes their head a little-
     
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