Reporting the mods

Discussion in 'That's So Meta!' started by Athol Magarac, Oct 24, 2018.

  1. thegrimsqueaker

    thegrimsqueaker 28 Moribunding Mouse Aggravates the Angry Assholes

    feeling dehumanized sucks, and no one deserves it

    why do you think they were poking you?
     
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  2. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    For folks with unreality issues, this is in reference to a different wiggled post from a different thread about a different topic, where I made the mistake of engaging, more than once, to help with why the post was wiggled, and what might help with the problem in the future.

    Eta: my phrasing is a little unclear, sorry. For clarity, she wasn't called delusional at any point in that conversation. The word was in there, and she's mockingly quoting one of my posts, but nobody in that thread applied the word to her.
     
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  3. TheOwlet

    TheOwlet A feathered pillow filled with salt and science

    You're absolutely not doing yourself any favours here, you're coming off as both completely context free as well as incredibly caustic and snappy.
     
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  4. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    How would you rewrite that so that it comes across as grateful and somewhat happy?
     
  5. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    The whole thing is so sarcastic that basically... you don't
     
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  6. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Originally, it was because I was lashing out against people who were calling me abusive for continuing to talk to liars after the liars wanted me not to. There was a phase where the mods were reading things stronger from me than they would a non-bigot. And the last one was my mistake for thinking that delusional meant "not grounded in reality" when it really means about the opposite.
     
  7. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    "And then I was like 'oh jeez, that's me'"

    (It's too bad that's still not what happened. Repeating falsehoods doesn't ACTUALLY make them true)
     
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  8. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    So people didn't call my behavior toward the PPC abusive?
     
  9. prismaticvoid

    prismaticvoid Too Too Abstract

    That's not a falsehood. You repeatedly violated boundaries, which is an abusive action.
     
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  10. lex

    lex + 0.2% luck

    it is a fact that you are abusive
     
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  11. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Oh, haha, no that was definitely abusive behavior.

    I was mistaken on who you were referring to, probably because you make NO EFFORT to be clear about who you're talking about. And it's still not what happened, but hey. I got your long-term grudge sniping campaigns mixed up, because calling the ppc liars makes... no sense? no sense.
     
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  12. lex

    lex + 0.2% luck

    tbf that doesn't really rule them out though, since quite a lot of what she says fails to track with reality
     
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  13. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Ugh, okay, flow interrupted for another wiggled post, because I'm-less-than-human isn't an okay tactic. Which she's been warned about a LOT of times before now, including last night.

    Her point:

    Other people can set boundaries where she's wrong for violating them, but it feels like she can't set boundaries where other people are wrong for violating them.

    I think the main issue is that she's not distinguishing contexts and what are reasonable boundaries and what aren't, but this part of the conversation never seems to progress past that last paragraph's point.
     
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  14. Edit: Oops, ninja'd

    I think in this case the ambiguity was deliberate. The statement was phrased in such a way to sound like it was about you, to generate a response of "YES it's okay to correct someone's lies about you, even if they don't want you interacting with them," specifically so that she could turn it around and apply it to the situation with the PPC, to prove a point.

    I think that Athol doesn't see a difference between her sockpuppetting the PPC after being banned, and you continuing to ask her to stop lying about you after she's asked you to go away. In her mind, you are to her what she was to the PPC, and I think she believes that if it's wrong/right in one situation it must be wrong/right in both.

    (Just trying to translate the thought process. Feel free to correct me if I got it wrong.)
     
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  15. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Yes, I think you have it exactly right. I'm out at lunch, but I was trying to figure iut the right way to phrase what felt suspicious about that. The definition of "lie" is something she keeps circling back around to with me, and it's not all that relevant to the ppc grudge.

    I'm not writing an essay about how how boundaries work, because she ignores those posts and I'm not wasting the effort, but it's a persistent problem.
     
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  16. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Not quite. I was phrasing it about the PPC and I guess I got too vague. I was hoping that the conversation would go directly to what the actual difference is.
     
  17. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    I know this isn't the first time you've heard this

    But just imagine

    Imagine how much easier conversation would be

    For everyone

    You included


    If you just bothered to mention what you're talking about instead of assuming people can read your mind.
     
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  18. Athol Magarac

    Athol Magarac I prefer reading posts without a lot of topics.

    Hey, if I work on that, can I get wiggled less?
     
  19. spockandawe

    spockandawe soft and woolen and writhing with curiosity

    Well, is it ever provided as a reason you're being wiggled?

    Lots of confusing things from you get approved. Things get wiggled for having something clearly inappropriate in them. This might, might have helped in one or two cases, but it is absolutely not one of the major drivers
     
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  20. Chiomi

    Chiomi Master of Disaster

    It depends on the posts! This is not a negotiation. This is a way for you to improve your communication. Which, if the things you are communicating are things that we wouldn't wiggle, will go through.
     
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