Reporting the mods

Yeah, sorry, TvTropes doesn't even work as a media analysis tool, so uh. The clear and bullshitless way to ask for accomodations remains open to Athol. There's also the problem where I am beginning to feel real fuckin' stupid pretending she's not there while very very obviously talking answering things she just said. Makes conversations hard.

 

Quite right, I'm sorry about that particular nasty thing I said. I'm not going to give explanations because I'd rather not get into an argument about what I was thinking at the time. (Actually, that's how the mess started.)

I'm sorry about that particularly nasty thing I said. I guess the strategy is to not get frustrated no matter how much I'm misunderstood.

Now tell me that it's a shitty apology. Or wiggle it and deny that I tried.

 

legit i really dont think any further engagement in this thread should occur until athol can demonstrate she knows what she did was wrong. like. im fucking seething? and we know she's gonna latch onto the snark stuff to address rather than the horrifying comment about spock, latest development of horrifying things said about spock.

strongly my onion on that one but if this is actually going to get an apology its gonna have to be while it's fresh i think especially as she's currently being snarky herself in replies

athol you super fucked up. you have super fucked up. this is arguably worse than the last thing you hurled at spock. it was vile, cruel, i think actually evil. it hits on a thing spock specifically told you to stop doing, which was referring to her with sexually laden metaphors, and it was just. Absolutely unacceptable and it is On. Nobody. Else. But. You.

Own that you fucked up. Apologize. Promise Not To Do Not Ever Do It Again.

 

YES THAT IS A SHITTY APOLOGY.

DO YOU KNOW WHY.

THIS IS WHY:

BECAUSE YET AGAIN, NOT ONLY ARE YOU CATASTROPHIZING TO A BATSHIT CONCLUSION, YOU ARE PAINTING WHAT YOU DID LIKE YOU TOLD SPOCK TO GO FUCK HERSELF, RATHER THAN WISHING FOR HER DEATH VIA SUFFERING INFLICTED BY SEXUALLY VIOLENT TORTURE FROM YOURSELF.

JESUS CHRIST.

 

Strongly disagree for reasons yelled above. she doesn't get a pass imo on apologizing like you would for telling someone to get fucked or a hurling a generic insult. it was visceral, personal, and vile. it was not a decent apology on any line.

 

i feel for the people who still somehow think that she will improve with enough coaching. it’s never been about what she does or doesn’t know is acceptable behavior. (for example, she knows it’s not okay to threaten self harm or suicide bait.) it’s about whether or not she’s willing to be self critical and to change. she’s not at that point yet, and she can’t be forced there either

edit: i guess the point of this post is similar to kathy’s in that i encourage people to save their breath

 

Was I not told that it's my own fault when I get angry, frustrated, decide to feel emotions?

I would have let that off but the PPC still has a grudge against me for not including a strategy with an apology.

What would you have me do?

 

I genuinely can't fucking tell. Normally I can at least trace the line of logic back by this point.

I genuinely don't know if she knows it's not okay to threaten self harm or suicide bait. I've tried asking and have yet to get an answer that makes it clear one way or another.

 

STOP IT.

There is a vast fucking difference between "deciding to feel emotions" and "so now I'm going to violently threaten this person and express I hope they die." I know you have self control, I know that you are capable of getting up to do something else when you're upset because you've posted about it!

Do you understand that it is never acceptable to suicide bait or threaten other actual living human beings like you have. Yes or no. Just yes or no, nothing else.

 

I want to hear it in her words because I want her to have the courage to at least stand by her convictions if she's going to do this shit. I want a solid yes or no answer.

 

There's a disconnect here.

Spoiler: Can I say something? Tell me whether or not you decide to open this.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure I didn't put much thought into what I was saying except that I should do the opposite of sanitizing. It was vile, but it was done without any consideration for the meaning. Just a mad-lib of nasty words that I didn't even re-read, much less try to understand it.