By Faranth's First Egg: The Dragonriders of Pern

Discussion in 'Fan Town' started by Raire, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. OtherCat

    OtherCat a being of mysterious happenstance

    Because I have always been annoyed that green dragons/green firelizards essentially get "slut shamed" for going into heat and (in the case of the firelizards) not taking care of their eggs I've developed the following headcanon:

    Gold firelizards are territorial as fuck and actively predate on other female's clutches. (we know the little guys are cannibals if you don't distract them with food that isn't their brothers/sisters when they hatch.) This is especially the case when it comes to green female clutches. Since the smaller greens don't form fairs of their own, but do go into heat/fly, their eggs get gobbled up by the gold/possibly the rest of the fair. They *do* attempt to hide their clutches, there might be solitary greens or greens with one or two "followers" willing to help protect the clutch, but they often end up abandoning them for one reason or another (such as being driven off by/joining a gold fair.)

    Also, I have never understood the excuse for not letting green dragons breed. "They'd produce small beasts." Um. At the point of the story? The small beasts would have been the size of a bus at the least. (Because I don't think they would would have been Ruth-sized.) Three or four greens held back from being fighting dragons to produce clutches might have been a good idea to get as many riders in the air as possible? I'm just saying.
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  2. VJ Wocky

    VJ Wocky 36 Somnolent Void Seeks Perfection in Dissonance

    out of curiosity, did they ever say why the colonists left the southern continent for the northern one?
    i know it was after they learned about thread but i don't remember the reasoning behind it
  3. NevermorePoe

    NevermorePoe Nevermore

    If i remember correctly, it was to allow the grubs they'd genetically engineered* time to spread out and populate the continent.

    *Citation Needed.
  4. cosmofex

    cosmofex trans lesbian extraordinaire

    iirc, it was because of two things- there weren't enough dragons and aircraft to protect all the land they'd need to since everyone was so spread out, so they all gathered at Landing. Then the volcano started erupting, so since whats-is-face and Telgar found the cavern that became Fort Hold and had already started preparing it as a Thread bunker, they decided to move there.
  5. Raire

    Raire Turquoise Helicoid

    Also, the northern continent had more cave systems and ground rock that is not affected by volcanoes and earthquakes, making it better for the sake of surviving thread.
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  6. VJ Wocky

    VJ Wocky 36 Somnolent Void Seeks Perfection in Dissonance

    ah cool, thanks everyone :D
  7. Raire

    Raire Turquoise Helicoid

    My Anne McCaffrey books. You can see how the Masterharper of Pern has lost its spine and is falling apart O_O;;;
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  8. Raire

    Raire Turquoise Helicoid

    You know something I've never seen addressed that was in the books? That apparently sexual thoughts and behaviour while a dragon is young affects them negatively or something. I think this was in Red Star Rising actually, and was always weird.
  9. VJ Wocky

    VJ Wocky 36 Somnolent Void Seeks Perfection in Dissonance

    well if that aint just creepy as hell

    "oh we only let very young pubescent children impress dragons. btw No Sexy Thoughts now, kiddies. you'll fuck up your dragon and it'll be YOUR fault. what do you mean hormones are a thing right now?"

    how the fuck does that even make sense. you'd have to have pre-pubescent kids impress, well before they're likely to start puberty, and that adds even MORE squick because the dragons would reach sexual maturity before their riders even got to the meat of their own sexual development

    bad Anne, bad! if you want to write creepy underage noncon statutory rape you have to TAG that shit
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  10. VJ Wocky

    VJ Wocky 36 Somnolent Void Seeks Perfection in Dissonance

    well that or only asexuals who never feel any sex drive could be dragon riders :/

    *edit* to clarify: that is still a REALLY BAD IDEA and i have no idea what the fuck Anne was thinking
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  11. Loq

    Loq rotating like a rotisserie chicknen

    because that would mix so well with the whole interspecies sex pollen during a mating flight =/
  12. VJ Wocky

    VJ Wocky 36 Somnolent Void Seeks Perfection in Dissonance

    still a REALLY BAD IDEA but hey "at least our precious dragons didn't get hurt while they were growing up. what rape?"
  13. VJ Wocky

    VJ Wocky 36 Somnolent Void Seeks Perfection in Dissonance

    just...another goddamn That Is Not How Gay Works, Anne moment
    except with...whatever she was thinking behind this bullshit

    • That Is Not How Asexuality Works, Anne
    • That Is Not How Puberty Works, Anne
    • That Is Not How Human Development Works, Anne
    • That Is Not How Sexuality In General Works, Anne
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  14. Starcrossedsky

    Starcrossedsky Burn and Refine

    To be fair, my sexual development was "That's gross" until about 18-19, it is POSSIBLE to have someone who is roughly ace in that time period and sexual later on, it's just extremely uncommon.
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  15. Raire

    Raire Turquoise Helicoid

    It still makes no sense as a general thing. For starters, why does it fuck up dragons? I can't get over that. Is it just that being intimately linked means that they are too young, children, who wouldn't be able to avoid sexual content while being too immature and unprepared and thus be traumatized in some form? Ok I just squicked myself.
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  16. VJ Wocky

    VJ Wocky 36 Somnolent Void Seeks Perfection in Dissonance

    no matter how you look at it its...unfortunate
  17. Raire

    Raire Turquoise Helicoid

    I'd rather the dragons were just too alien to suffer from that exposure.
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  18. LadyNighteyes

    LadyNighteyes Wicked Witch of the Radiant Historia Fandom

    Yeah. Dragon sexuality doesn't work anything like human sexuality, so they could just be like "human is feeling weird human feeling that I don't really understand, must be Tuesday."
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